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Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by matthewtse on Sunday September 17, 2023 @08:49AM (#37544502)
> I really can’t imagine someone who sitting around deciding “I have to eat more bread, the government’s pyramid drawing demands it” rather than just eating what they want to eat.

Actually, to a shocking degree, yes.

I grew up in an immigrant family, so my parents were far too busy working to do non-mainstream research on diet. I grew up eating 2+ bowls of white rice, another serving of vegetables, and a small serving of meat for most meals. This was me "trying to be healthy" given the mainstream knowledge at the time.

If your parents aren't well-off enough to do dedicated research into the optimal diet for their children (which describes most of American parents), then you'll follow the advertised government guidelines.

Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by jonplackett on Sunday September 17, 2023 @09:11AM (#37544699)
As diets go, meat, rice and vegetables isn’t that bad.

Cereal… not so great.

Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by fundad on Sunday September 17, 2023 @10:06AM (#37545210)
Agreed, the thing is my kids can afford the calories that I’ve been avoiding for a very long time. Starch has energy, habits about balance are important too.
Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by okaram on Sunday September 17, 2023 @10:06AM (#37545213)
Rice is s cereal.

The main problem is the processing, not the underlying grain ;)

Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by rolph on Sunday September 17, 2023 @12:39PM (#37546934)
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Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by jonplackett on Sunday September 17, 2023 @07:12PM (#37550275)
Yeah m, thought th ‘breakfast’ part of cereal was a given since that’s what we’re discussing.
Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by spywaregorilla on Sunday September 17, 2023 @09:57AM (#37545108)
That sounds like a perfectly fine diet.
Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by Almondsetat on Sunday September 17, 2023 @09:59AM (#37545132)
>2+ bowls of white rice, another serving of vegetables, and a small serving of meat for most meals. This was me "trying to be healthy" given the mainstream knowledge at the time

I mean, except for the white rice (which should always be whole, like all grains in your diet) this seems like a good diet. Of course it all depends on how much stuff you were given to eat, but there is nothing wrong with this

Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by jncfhnb on Sunday September 17, 2023 @10:48AM (#37545585)
“Should” is a hefty term. If you’re doing fine on white rice by all means eat white rice.
Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by Almondsetat on Sunday September 17, 2023 @11:25AM (#37546041)
"Must" is a hefty term, not "should". Ask any nutritionist and they'll tell you whole rice is always the better choice for nutrition
Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by jncfhnb on Sunday September 17, 2023 @01:38PM (#37547525)
Sure. But it don’t matter much
Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by Almondsetat on Sunday September 17, 2023 @01:48PM (#37547613)
Go and look how many vitamins and nutrients are lost making white grains and how much the glycemic index rises.

It matters a lot, especially if it's a main part of your diet.

Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by jncfhnb on Sunday September 17, 2023 @02:40PM (#37548075)
Everything is relative. But imo it’s VERY unlikely to matter “a lot”. Everything is trickier if you’re trying to lose weight, but white rice vs brown is a tiny offender relative to the more common culprits
Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by Almondsetat on Sunday September 17, 2023 @03:03PM (#37548297)
Why are you talking about losing weight?
Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by jncfhnb on Sunday September 17, 2023 @03:06PM (#37548317)
That is a common context for consideration of nutrition.
Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by nradov on Sunday September 17, 2023 @12:35PM (#37546889)
Whole grain rice contains higher levels of arsenic. A little bit is fine, but 2+ bowls per day may be problematic.

And getting the majority of your calories from grains of any type is in no way a "good diet". That myth needs to die.

Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by Almondsetat on Sunday September 17, 2023 @01:52PM (#37547657)
You should not be eating the same whole grain (or any food for that matter) all of the time exactly because each food has its pros and cons (the cons are vastly outnumbered by the pros if you eat the good foods though)

Every dietitian tells you to vary your diet as much as possible. Your reply is moot because you are blindly considering 1 argument at a time while the guidelines paint a whole picture

Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by nradov on Sunday September 17, 2023 @05:02PM (#37549279)
Variety is good. But any dietician or guidelines who tells you to base your diet on grains should be ignored.
Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by Almondsetat on Sunday September 17, 2023 @05:58PM (#37549733)
Says who?
Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by jhbadger on Sunday September 17, 2023 @10:17AM (#37545310)
If the meat in question is fish, that is pretty much the Japanese diet, and they are doing pretty well health-wise.
Re:Breakfast cereal is in long-term decline by macNchz on Sunday September 17, 2023 @10:20AM (#37545335)
That is a dramatically healthier meal than very many American kids typically eat. Compare it to, say: a hotdog, a bag of potato chips, and a 20oz bottle of soda.