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Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by mantas on Saturday August 26, 2023 @04:34AM (#37270837)
Is EU really trying to slow it down? TikTok ban in US seems to be a common talking point. Meanwhile here very few people talk about it and those are seen as lunatics in most cases.

Most people seem to happily approve all the GDPR dialogs too. While doomscrolling TikTok/Instagram/FB.

Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by LelouBil on Saturday August 26, 2023 @04:44AM (#37270866)
When you have a truly compliant gdpr dialog, aka simple yes/no, I found lots of non tech people around me click no. I'd say about 50%
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by filipheremans on Saturday August 26, 2023 @05:30AM (#37271070)
We serve a web application for logistics so our users are planners, administrative people, drivers, etc and we see the same behaviour. A lot of users ignore the dialog (so no analytics can be used, default to answering no) and learn to live with the cookie pop-up in the corner of the screen.. :-D
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by developer93 on Saturday August 26, 2023 @05:12AM (#37270986)
Personally I nearly always take the time to scroll through and untick all the permissions, or find a different site because screw them, that's why. I realise I'm in the minority.
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by malermeister on Saturday August 26, 2023 @06:09AM (#37271331)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-mat...

This should make it a lot easier :) It auto-handles most gdpr permission walls, and yes, you can set it to reject all - that's what I do!

(I'm sure this exists for Chrome, too, but if you care about this sort of thing you really should be using Firefox!)

Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by drakonka on Saturday August 26, 2023 @06:58AM (#37271631)
Thank you for this; I've been manually unticking everything since these regulations came into effect and have to admit it was getting a bit tiring (plus sometimes I was too hasty and accidentally clicked "Accept" when the cookie buttons were in a weird order or had non-standard wording.) I hope this helps me decline all the things more efficiently.
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by folmar on Saturday August 26, 2023 @08:26AM (#37272196)
Just remove the dialogs with ublock filters; this is supposed to mean no consent. Most spy networks don't care and track before you click anyway.
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by developer93 on Sunday August 27, 2023 @01:49AM (#37279767)
Well, that made me unreasonably happy, thank you Edit: and then realise it's not applicable to android Firefox where I do most of my browsing, but thank you anyway.
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by rcMgD2BwE72F on Monday August 28, 2023 @07:32AM (#37292476)
I much prefer https://github.com/OhMyGuus/I-Still-Dont-Care-About-Cookies (far more reliable in my experience)
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by uoaei on Saturday August 26, 2023 @07:24AM (#37271771)
GDPR mandates that they are all already unchecked except for the so-called "essential" or "functional" ones.
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by frereubu on Saturday August 26, 2023 @10:58AM (#37273476)
I wish I had more time and / or money because this is commonly ignored, and I would love to take all organisations who don't abide by this to court just for the hell of it. Many times it's under the guise of "legitimate interest" under a separate unselected tab and I would love to test that in court.
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by account42 on Monday August 28, 2023 @07:57AM (#37292699)
I feel like the EU should have made it so that you could actually sue corporations for GDRP violations (as long as you have enough evidence for a court to hear the case) and for the accuser to get part of the fine if you win. Would have been a much more effective enforcement strategy.
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by developer93 on Sunday August 27, 2023 @01:48AM (#37279760)
Weil, good for GDPR. Meantime, is there anything I can do to report sites that don't follow the letter of it?
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by LelouBil on Wednesday August 30, 2023 @05:50PM (#37329633)
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by troupo on Saturday August 26, 2023 @07:53AM (#37271950)
When Apple implemented "Ask app to not track", the click through on "Ask to not track" was 90%.

People care about this, so no wonders the industry as a while is up in arms about it.

Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by mantas on Saturday August 26, 2023 @09:07AM (#37272527)
I rarely see yes/no. Websites doing no tracking (thus no dialog) seem more common. Usually it’s „accept recommended trackers“ or customize by unchecking trackers one by one.
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by denton-scratch on Saturday August 26, 2023 @04:44AM (#37270869)
> Most people seem to happily approve all the GDPR dialogs too.

What's a "GDPR dialog"? Do you mean a cookie banner? Nothing in GDPR requires a cookie banner.

Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by mantas on Saturday August 26, 2023 @04:48AM (#37270890)
The cookie banner 2.0. Where you either approve all the „recommended“ tracking. Or have to go to advanced dialog, uncheck all trackers and then click non-primary submit button.
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by martin8412 on Saturday August 26, 2023 @05:04AM (#37270959)
Which is illegal.
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by tick_tock_tick on Saturday August 26, 2023 @05:17AM (#37271007)
Except it's not. Which is why people aren't being punished for it and more sites adopt it daily.
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by dns_snek on Saturday August 26, 2023 @05:25AM (#37271050)
Opting out must be just as easy or easier than opting in.

Companies aren't being punished for it often enough (yet), that is true, but it's absolutely illegal.

Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by Sayrus on Saturday August 26, 2023 @05:29AM (#37271066)
There may not be many fines but Facebook, Google, TikTok and Microsoft were all fined due to making it hard to refuse cookies.

Amazon was also fined for not properly asking consent. If I remember correctly, one of the company making those annoying cookies banners where you have a list of trackers to uncheck was also fined for this behavior.

It is illegal to not offer a clear and unambiguous opt out.

Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by Xelbair on Saturday August 26, 2023 @06:06AM (#37271305)
>If informed consent is used as the lawful basis for processing, consent must have been explicit for data collected and each purpose data is used for (Article 7; defined in Article 4).[11][12] Consent must be a specific, freely given, plainly worded, and unambiguous affirmation given by the data subject; an online form which has consent options structured as an opt-out selected by default is a violation of the GDPR, as the consent is not unambiguously affirmed by the user. In addition, multiple types of processing may not be "bundled" together into a single affirmation prompt, as this is not specific to each use of data, and the individual permissions are not freely given. (Recital 32)
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by folmar on Saturday August 26, 2023 @08:27AM (#37272208)
Poland already has a case against the most malevolent one, IAB, in progress.
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by HWR_14 on Saturday August 26, 2023 @04:59AM (#37270939)
I thought only 10-15% of people approved all GDPR dialogs.
Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by saiya-jin on Saturday August 26, 2023 @07:34AM (#37271828)
The only reason TikTok was banned in US is because its Chinese company. Have you completely missed all-out trade/informational/technology war US has declared on China in past few years? Huawei, ban on chips and so on and on.

Facebook is doing exactly the same and wish to emulate TikTok as much as possible, sharing all data with US 3-letter agencies as required (most probably meaning everything all the time). They are just behind and lost the social momentum. Haven't heard anything about Meta products ban in US, probably because it will never ever happen.

Re:EU’s War on Behavioral Advertising by mantas on Saturday August 26, 2023 @03:17PM (#37275952)
And here in europe we can’t even deal with the Chinese because muh German car market. Let alone local and murican corporations who have a lot of leverage.