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Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by andix on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:30PM (#37250910)
That won't happen soon, people would go completely nuts if someone would bring extraterrestrial life to earth.

Edit: they went nuts when they got offered mRNA vaccines, and thought reptiloids are going to control their minds. I can't imagine what will happen, if there is Martian life somewhere in a lab.

Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by ceejayoz on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:42PM (#37251124)
A sample return mission is already planned; the Perserverance rover is collecting samples (20 so far) for it to take back. https://mars.nasa.gov/msr/ https://mars.nasa.gov/mars-rock-samples/
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by hutzlibu on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:38PM (#37251024)
Well, I actually think it would make sense, to test it somewhere in space first, see how it reacts with earth life. (it likeley would just die, I think and not become parasitic)

But I rather think it won't happen soon, because it is not a priority to most funding parties.

Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by seanw444 on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:32PM (#37250933)
For good reason.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by chargingmarmot on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:40PM (#37251066)
Please. We live on a planet that has been bombarded by space rocks for billions of years and that's home to all sorts of viruses and bacteria evolving to kill us for as long as we've been around.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by Calavar on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:42PM (#37251127)
So did the indigenous people of the Americas, and yet it's estimated that as many as 90% of them died within the span of about 150 years.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by chargingmarmot on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:59PM (#37251427)
This just reinforces my point. The germs that killed the native Americans grew up in an environment where humans were living in close proximity to a variety of animals (cows, chickens, rats) for thousands of years. (cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel)
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by tyg13 on Thursday August 24, 2023 @01:22PM (#37251806)
Not that your point is invalid, but I wouldn't be linking Guns, Germs, and Steel. Quite a few historians have heavily criticized the claims in that book for being overly reductive pop history.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by sixstringtheory on Thursday August 24, 2023 @04:52PM (#37254391)
This is argumentum ad verecundiam in a debate that is theoretical back-and-forth. I think it's at least worthy of examination, especially if you want to understand the points being made by those historians to which you allude. By all means link to their counterarguments, but don't chill the sharing of other work like that.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by l33t7332273 on Thursday August 24, 2023 @05:35PM (#37254851)
Every critique I’ve seen hasn’t really attacked the core thesis of the work, mostly dismantling ancillary supporting examples.

I’ve certainly not seen a refutation of the fact that the natural attributes of living in one place provide advantages over other places.

I haven’t looked into this in a while though, so if you’re aware of some more comprehensive rebuttals, I’d like to see them.

Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by dehrmann on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:43PM (#37251131)
The US brought back moon rocks.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by asdff on Thursday August 24, 2023 @05:04PM (#37254537)
The handling of which inspires zero confidence.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by gizmo686 on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:44PM (#37251157)
2033 (planned launches in 2027 and 2028). Samples have already been collected.

We have brought extraterrestrial samples to Earth before.

https://mars.nasa.gov/msr/#Facts

Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by andix on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:53PM (#37251325)
Don't tell Fox News!
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by DiggyJohnson on Thursday August 24, 2023 @01:41PM (#37252106)
Please take the divisive interjections to some other site. I know they might seem funny or insightful to you, but they're not adding anything to this discussion.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by andix on Thursday August 24, 2023 @04:00PM (#37253814)
This was the whole point of my initial comment. That it could create a lot of blowback from people who have a „critical“ opinion about science.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by DiggyJohnson on Thursday August 24, 2023 @04:56PM (#37254434)
I think you're too confident in this assumption, then, and there are way less nutjobs that would be freaked out by a Mars sample return mission than you are concerned about.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by MaxHoppersGhost on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:48PM (#37251232)
“Offered” mRNA vaccines - you couldn’t live a normal life without showing proof you had taken the experimental “vaccine”.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by andix on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:53PM (#37251321)
You were not allowed to go to restaurants, hotels, cinemas or theatres. Or work in sensitive areas like hospitals (in my country this was even only true for new hires, not for people who were already on the job).
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by 1234554321a on Thursday August 24, 2023 @01:21PM (#37251778)
Yes. You were also constantly threatened by the media and government, forced to take “covid test” and then locked up because of false positive result, or even sent to a “health camp” in some countries. All that because you didn’t accept their precious “vaccine” that was “offered” by them.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by MaxHoppersGhost on Thursday August 24, 2023 @04:15PM (#37253979)
All those things are involved in living a normal life.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by soupfordummies on Thursday August 24, 2023 @01:16PM (#37251698)
In most situations you could also just show proof you had a negative test in the past week.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by WeylandYutani on Thursday August 24, 2023 @01:00PM (#37251437)
The world is bigger than anti science America.

EU, Japan and China have plans for Mars and they're not worried about religion.

Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by ecshafer on Thursday August 24, 2023 @01:20PM (#37251767)
United States spends more money on fundamental science than any other country by a large margin.
Re:We Might Have Accidentally Killed the Only Life We Ever F... by andix on Thursday August 24, 2023 @04:03PM (#37253850)
At least the EU is even more „anti-science“ than the US. It’s a global phenomenon.