Battery life is (not exaggerating) 5x or more in my experience.

It's honest to god, much faster.

Completely silent and cool. (one of my thinkpads almost burned me it got so hot, and the fans get so loud)

I've never had a single crash, random restart, failure to sleep, failure to charge, driver problem, touchpad randomly not working, wifi failing, all of which I've had with thinkpads.

Those are Linux driver issues, not HW issues.

People always complain about Lenovo in these threads, I think because they are held up as the “good non-Apple laptop” brand for whatever reason. I suspect this reputation makes people assume they can just grab any random model and it will work perfectly. That’s just a roll of the dice, maybe weighted in favor of working, but still random.

Sure, that's why there's now a dozen Laptop brands that ship with Linux compatibility in mind.

The touchpads on my wife's T470 and my T480 have very similar intermittent issues, despite her running Windows and me running Linux.

Especially since most commodity HW is in a constant race to the bottom in terms of pricing, calling them "lazy" is a huge slap in the face, especially if you knew how overworked and underpaid people in that industry tend to be.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/ry0nwb/the_asus_flip_...

But it is pretty easy to get 14 in Linux I think, at least if you believe the battery indicator.

Nah, it's common across all x86 devices. Even Apple's old lineup... which is why they went for M in the first place, Intel couldn't be arsed to deliver something power efficient.

Huge differences come probably from the lack of user skills, less about the OS. Or just broken drivers.

And the configuration is pretty helpful, for example I have an OLED screen, so I can get some power savings from making things mostly black.

Plus the hard drive can mostly be idle; you don’t have Cortana or whatever they call it now poking around for interesting bits.

I also have a Anker 737 battery, with it I can double the macbook's battery if fully charged. The Thinkpad would only charge partially, so wouldn't even double.

I typically get a day of work out of my Zenbook flip 13; I haven’t really measured the battery performance rigorously because it is easily long enough that I don’t think about it (the battery indicator will say 14 hours, but those are of course pretty flaky). I’m a vim/Firefox with ads blocked guy though so I guess I must not be making it work very hard.

I used ThinkPads for 7 years until getting new M2 Pro, mostly with Linux.

Touchpads on Thinkpads are not getting even close to Macbooks. You need external mouse.

Also the the basic screen quality on current Macbook Pros is beyond their top quality products. Try to look for 1000 nits screen? Not even gaming laptops quality ones.

And battery life...

And performance...

When you have enough performance on your machine, the physical touch, screen and overall stability goes beyond everything else. Thinkpads have better durability on keyboard tho.

I also used to have one of those OLED Thinkpads and that was the biggiest mess I ever hard. They even cancelled OLED screens on all products for 4 years after that. The screen just broke every one month.

W-series, P-series, top of the line

Switched to Mac M1 this year, and.....gosh. Longer battery life, better performance, higher resolution, brighter screen...it's not even close.

I wish mac would stop making the track pad so damn big though, the amount of palm activations I have on that thing drive me bonkers.

My experience of the P14s says that either I have a dud (other colleagues complain vociferously about them, too) or your MacBook is defective.

But 80% of my usage with external keyboard and mouse.