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Re:The first conformant M1 GPU driver by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @12:47PM (#37225331)
>driver problem, touchpad randomly not working, wifi failing, all of which I've had with thinkpads.

Those are Linux driver issues, not HW issues.

Re:The first conformant M1 GPU driver by padjo on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @01:42PM (#37226140)
And when I can’t join a call because the Wi-Fi has stopped working I’m sure everyone will appreciate that distinction
Re:The first conformant M1 GPU driver by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @01:52PM (#37226280)
Did Lenovo sell you the laptop with Linux compatibility explicitly stated?
Re:The first conformant M1 GPU driver by bee_rider on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @01:37PM (#37226059)
Incompatibility is a two-sided issue, there are enough laptops out there that work perfectly fine in Linux. But a brand isn’t a technical promise, they’ll miss with some models and hit with others.

People always complain about Lenovo in these threads, I think because they are held up as the “good non-Apple laptop” brand for whatever reason. I suspect this reputation makes people assume they can just grab any random model and it will work perfectly. That’s just a roll of the dice, maybe weighted in favor of working, but still random.

Re:The first conformant M1 GPU driver by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @06:13PM (#37229259)
>But a brand isn’t a technical promise, they’ll miss with some models and hit with others.

Sure, that's why there's now a dozen Laptop brands that ship with Linux compatibility in mind.

Re:The first conformant M1 GPU driver by dlivingston on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @01:36PM (#37226045)
That only matters in a technical sense -- as a consumer, I want a flawless out-of-the-box experience. I don't care if X isn't working because of Y or Z; I only care that it isn't working.
Re:The first conformant M1 GPU driver by organsnyder on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @12:51PM (#37225401)
> Those are Linux issues, not HW issues.

The touchpads on my wife's T470 and my T480 have very similar intermittent issues, despite her running Windows and me running Linux.

Re:The first conformant M1 GPU driver by Dylan16807 on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @02:11PM (#37226543)
They are very likely hardware issues that the Linux driver is simply not working around rather than being actually wrong.
Re:The first conformant M1 GPU driver by kayodelycaon on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @04:09PM (#37227897)
If you're using Linux and there are no good, reliable drivers for your machine, it might as well be a hardware issue.
Re:The first conformant M1 GPU driver by olddustytrail on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @04:49PM (#37228317)
If you're too lazy to make a Linux driver for your hardware, it's a hardware issue.
Re:The first conformant M1 GPU driver by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @05:40PM (#37228888)
Maybe some HW companies don't have the budget to write drivers for the 3% userbase that is PC Linux users.

Especially since most commodity HW is in a constant race to the bottom in terms of pricing, calling them "lazy" is a huge slap in the face, especially if you knew how overworked and underpaid people in that industry tend to be.

Re:The first conformant M1 GPU driver by eru on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @09:44AM (#37235743)
As a user, I don't really care about the root cause..