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Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by ggm on Sunday August 20, 2023 @06:28AM (#37197811)
Look in sentences for alternate meaning. The missing Oxford comma. Bad apostrophe use. Altered meaning is a bedrock of a lot of humour

Puns go back thousands of years across all languages and cultures. Recognise them, try some on for size.

Use sarcasm judiciously. It's easy to be misunderstood. Sarcastic fake racism is often mistaken for real racism when casually overheard.

There's a thin line between roasting, and bullying. If you're worried your on the receiving end, that has to be made plain.

Deadpan can be very funny.

Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by msm_ on Sunday August 20, 2023 @04:27PM (#37202644)
>Puns go back thousands of years across all languages and cultures. Recognise them, try some on for size.

That's likely true, but some languages use them way more than others. For example my native (slavic) tongue avoids puns almost completely, instead relying on other forms of humour. Your post actually prompted me to find a serious research about this topic, but unfortunately I couldn't find any so I have to rely on anecdotal evidence. If anyone knows any comparative study of joke types (especially puns) between cultures, I'm very interested.

Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by ggm on Sunday August 20, 2023 @09:05PM (#37204406)
Well there you go. Another cross-language myth of my own busted. So now I wonder which other languages de-emphasise Puns?

I too would love to see this. I can declare positively French is pun-rich, my parents had a 1940s dictionary of argot, which was rich, inventive and almost like cockney rhyming slang.

Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by ausp on Monday August 21, 2023 @09:16AM (#37209153)
On the other end of the scale, it's said the Carthaginians spoke a punic language.
Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by tomcam on Monday August 21, 2023 @07:21PM (#37216651)
Damn that’s a deep cut. Mad props
Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by Quinzel on Sunday August 20, 2023 @06:21AM (#37197779)
I have a couple of suggestions:

1. I would start by trying to not take things seriously.

How would you actually achieve this? Firstly, you could start by taking sometime to reflect on why you take things so seriously. Then maybe when you have thought about those things, you could then also ask yourself questions like, “Is there other perspectives I could have taken?”, “what would it be like to take other perspectives?”, and “what might the consequences be like?” It doesn’t take a great deal of effort, it’s just a little bit of self-reflection, and maybe meta-cognition which may allow you to see other ways of perceiving your experiences in a less serious manner. However, it is appropriate in some circumstances to be serious, so at least in that regard, you have an advantage.

2. Familiarise yourself with the art of sarcasm. I myself am sometimes sarcastic to myself, as an intentional act in order to not take myself too seriously. Additionally though, I personally use sarcasm to lighten difficult situations. I am careful however not to use sarcasm in a nasty way towards other people - which is always a risk because of the very nature of sarcasm - hence why I refer to it as an art. Needless to say, sarcasm is great. Additionally, when using sarcasm, you can risk accidentally offending people, for this reason, I caution that if you do choose to use sarcasm, you may at some point be required to admit you mis-read a situation and you will need to apologise. Some people find it difficult to admit their wrong doing and apologise - perhaps because they take themselves too seriously. If you’re one of those people who can’t do that, then probably avoid sarcasm.

3. Failing the other two methods I have suggested, there is always dad jokes. The benefit of dad jokes is that there is practically an endless supply of them on the internet and even though they’re slightly corny, they’re still fun. They’re even better if they are delivered by a middle-aged man with a dad-bod with middle childhood aged children, however the truth of the matter is that anyone can tell a dad joke and amuse others.

Good luck on your journey to being less serious :)

Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by jadamson on Sunday August 20, 2023 @05:50AM (#37197638)
Are you trying to be less serious (i.e. change your attitude) or trying to be funny?
Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by 0x54MUR41 on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @01:10AM (#37218911)
No, I don't want to change my attitude.

I want to be a person that doesn't take everything seriously in all situations. It depends on the context, let's say, I can respond to the joke my friend are making or I throw a joke to relax the nerves.

Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by muzani on Sunday August 20, 2023 @06:59AM (#37197959)
You don't need a sense of humor to be fun. Watch Guardians of the Galaxy and mirror Drax.
Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by yamrzou on Sunday August 20, 2023 @07:08AM (#37198022)
First, it important is to accept the fact that you are a serious person and make peace with it. This is because what you resist, persists. Change occurs when one becomes what he is, not when he tries to become what he is not (See: The Paradoxical Theory of Change — https://www.gestalt.org/arnie.htm).

Second, it would be helpful to understand where seriousness comes from. Taking everything seriously is an attempt to ward off the fear of the loss of control, the fear of anything that could lead to failure or rejection and the accompanying feelings. Seriousness is the opposite of spontaneity and play. By working on this, you can make a step toward developing a sense of humour.

Hope it helps.

Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by austin-cheney on Sunday August 20, 2023 @07:16AM (#37198073)
Sarcasm.

Once I was on a specialized two person team in Afghanistan. They needed to swap out my teammate the incoming guy had spent almost his entire life on Guam. He had no concept of sarcasm at all. Before coming in country to join me the unit provided him a sensitivity brief because I was known to be exceedingly sarcastic and to not be offended by it. He adapted to my conversational style super fast and I was actually exceedingly sarcastic. He found it hilarious all the time.

Any attempt at humor can be offensive. Know your audience. It does not matter what you intend, but how they perceive it. Just relax and be a team player.

I also worked with a guy who memorized all the lame dad jokes he could find and many were really funny.

Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by not_your_vase on Sunday August 20, 2023 @08:26AM (#37198446)
Just like everything else in 2023, sense of humor also should be developed with rust only.
Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by fuzztester on Monday August 21, 2023 @09:09PM (#37217345)
Nice irony.
Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by fuzztester on Monday August 21, 2023 @09:10PM (#37217350)
You nailed it.
Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by gardenhedge on Sunday August 20, 2023 @09:55AM (#37199169)
If you were to look at a scale with serious on one side and not-serious on another. Where do you think the best employees would fall? I assume most would agree that they are towards the serious side.
Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by brokenmachine on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @01:31AM (#37219033)
There is more to life than being the "best employee".
Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by catlover76 on Sunday August 20, 2023 @01:24PM (#37201151)
Just watch a lot of funny stuff. All these recommendations suggesting behavioral change are useless tautological prescriptions ("stop taking things so seriously") and/or difficult to implement in daily life. Repeatedly exposing yourself to funny such that you absorb it by osmosis and it affects your internal thoughts is easier.
Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by msm_ on Sunday August 20, 2023 @04:11PM (#37202538)
Not sure this works for everyone. Anecdotal evidence, but I always hated watching conventionally "funny" stuff (media created for the purpose of getting a laugh response, like comedy movies), but I believe my sense of humour is OK, both on receiving end and when joking myself.

I'm a programmer, not a psychologist, so I don't know what exactly gives one a sense of humour, but it can't be just a learned skill acquired by watching others.

Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by MilnerRoute on Sunday August 20, 2023 @08:34PM (#37204283)
I've found that I'm more likely to laugh at stand-up comedy than at "comedy" movies or TV situation comedies.

I wonder if going to a live comedy club helps develop a sense of humor?

Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by catlover76 on Sunday August 20, 2023 @08:45PM (#37204325)
Maybe you just didn't find stuff that jives with you.

I've been known as a pretty funny guy, but also very eccentric--for the most part, almost nothing I have found funny and that has in turn informed my sense of humor has been stuff most people find funny. I don't watch popular comedy movies or sit coms, etc. Historically, the stuff I have found funniest has mostly been weird niche stuff on YouTube.

Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by WallyFunk on Sunday August 20, 2023 @01:59PM (#37201477)
Humor is mixing the real with the absurd. We laugh because something is absurd, not because it's 'funny'.
Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by davidhbolton on Sunday August 20, 2023 @02:02PM (#37201500)
Watch some old British comedy series. BlackAdder series 2-4. Also with Rowan Atkinson, Not the Nine O'Clock news.
Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by kwar13 on Sunday August 20, 2023 @02:14PM (#37201603)
"Comedy Writing Secrets" is a classic book and highly recommended!

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/51721

Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by atleastoptimal on Sunday August 20, 2023 @05:52PM (#37203254)
Do stand up or improv
Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by tomcam on Monday August 21, 2023 @07:24PM (#37216665)
I think there may be a bit of sequencing problem here
Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by rurban on Monday August 21, 2023 @09:45AM (#37209514)
To get rid of your autism score, you might either need medical help or a higher IQ. (see Autism Spectrum Quotient)

Humor is builtin into intelligent beings.

Re:Ask HN: What is the effective way to develop the sense of... by impendia on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @08:53AM (#37222013)
I took beginner improv comedy lessons from BATS in San Francisco, and also saw several of their shows, and it was a revelation.

The cardinal rule of improv is "Yes, And": If your partner exclaims "Oh no, our house is burning!", then henceforth your house is burning. You might respond: "Fluffy!" Whether Fluffy is a cat, a dog, or something else then depends on how your partner reacts.

One thing that struck me is that improv is not about trying to be funny, it's about building a connection with the other actors on stage, and about welcoming the unexpected and rolling with it. I think the same could be said for most humor in general.