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Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by kshahkshah on Sunday August 06, 2023 @09:53AM (#37021927)
Check out Beekeeper Studio
Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by bbkane on Sunday August 06, 2023 @10:35AM (#37022397)
Love Beekeeper Studio!
Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by rapind on Sunday August 06, 2023 @11:48AM (#37023173)
A monthly fee? No thanks.
Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by kshahkshah on Sunday August 06, 2023 @12:13PM (#37023451)
Sheesh. It's open source, has a free version, and then a premium version so the bootstrapped, not-VC backed, creators avoid starving themselves and their families while working on the tool...
Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by gabereiser on Sunday August 06, 2023 @12:49PM (#37023882)
Sadly, this is why this space has laggard for so long. Devs don’t want to pay for tooling but expect others to pay for their product.
Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by Xymist on Sunday August 06, 2023 @02:12PM (#37024898)
There is an important differentiator, though. I'm happy to pay _once_ for tooling as a product, and potentially for subsequent major versions. I am not, however, willing to be a source of MRR.
Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by gabereiser on Sunday August 06, 2023 @10:16PM (#37029236)
I generally agree with this. There’s only one or two tools I’ll begrudgingly subscribe to with this model. I would be way more inclined to use the tools if it were a single purchase and I’ll upgrade when I feel like it. I’m looking at you JetBrains and Adobe…
Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by alex23478 on Monday August 07, 2023 @10:39AM (#37035070)
JetBrains offer perpetual fallback licenses together with their yearly subscriptions: https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What...
Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by gabereiser on Tuesday August 08, 2023 @12:05AM (#37044398)
Then nag you and auto update you to the latest version without a perpetual license.
Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by rathboma on Sunday August 06, 2023 @02:02PM (#37024783)
Hi! I'm the bootstrapped, non VC backed creator of Beekeeper Studio. My open source version is good, probably too good, lol.

Thanks for the mention!

Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by mkl on Sunday August 06, 2023 @05:50PM (#37027233)
Please make your screenshot carousel stop automatically rotating after it is interacted with; it's really hard to take in the details of the screenshots.
Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by rathboma on Sunday August 06, 2023 @06:32PM (#37027599)
Good idea, I'll do that, thanks!
Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by spiderice on Sunday August 06, 2023 @06:18PM (#37027488)
> probably too good, lol

Lol, this is too true. I use Beekeeper Studio every day. Every once in a while I think to myself, "I should see if the full version is worth paying for yet". Then I check out the features and, while they look great, the free version has absolutely everything I need.

Thanks for such a great product. I'll stop freeloading eventually!

Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by rapind on Sunday August 06, 2023 @02:31PM (#37025090)
The pricing looks like SaaS only. I'm happy to pay a one-time fee for software (even when it doesn't include future versions), but not a subscription, unless of course there is a common sense benefit to a subscription (like paying for additional support on top of the fixed price).

Anyways, once taking the time to re-read the pricing screen subtleties it is sort of a one-time fee (billed as one year of subscription to gain indefinite use), so kudos to the developer, but I have to say it's really non-obvious to me at least.

Also the availability of a community edition is great, but again non-obvious.

Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by kshahkshah on Monday August 07, 2023 @08:53AM (#37033750)
That's good feedback for the developer for sure.
Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by fragmede on Sunday August 06, 2023 @01:25PM (#37024396)
The stereotype of software devs being the absolute cheapest bastards, despite being well paid, lives on. These people put time and effort into building a thing, and giving them money for it is reprehensible?
Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by VincentEvans on Sunday August 06, 2023 @01:54PM (#37024691)
I’m not the people you are responding to, but I’ll share my take as a dev who buys some tools and turns my nose at the others.

The difference is - whether it’s a purchase or a subscription.

I’ll happily buy a tool, and happily will buy upgrades every so often.

I will absolutely resist paying for subscriptions unless you are delivering some sort of continuous service and I won’t be fooled by gimmicky cloud integrations just to make that claim.

Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by thiht on Sunday August 06, 2023 @02:30PM (#37025081)
Same for me, I avoid subscriptions as much as possible.

I’m ok with the model of TablePlus however: pay for a license, it’s valid for a year, and at the end of the year you keep the current version available forever but no more updates. And you get a discount if you decide to renew your license

Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by VincentEvans on Sunday August 06, 2023 @08:51PM (#37028623)
Agreed, a subscription model where you end up “owning” a particular version after reaching some milestone is ok with me. Sort of like a payment plan.

I’ve been a happy subscriber to Jetbrains Toolbox that has a similar model for many years now, and have interrupted and later resumed my subscription while being able to use the software in between.

100% against a subscription where you no longer able to use the software the moment you cancel your subscription after paying for years. Looking at you Adobe.

Re:Show HN: Postgres Language Server by codeptualize on Sunday August 06, 2023 @12:04PM (#37023339)
Will try!

It looks quite similar to table plus, any killer features I’m overlooking?