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Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by 7e on Friday June 30, 2023 @07:59PM (#36544374)
Why are centralized businesses doomed to fail? It’s been the primary organizational mode for the last 10,000 years.
Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by grugagag on Friday June 30, 2023 @08:14PM (#36544520)
Pressure to squeeze out profits continously until there’s nothing but a husk left.
Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by mr_00ff00 on Friday June 30, 2023 @08:38PM (#36544787)
Except weren’t all these services running at a loss?

How would smaller companies do better?

Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by keldtin on Friday June 30, 2023 @08:48PM (#36544900)
The key here is that the environment of near-zero interest rates these services proliferated in is over, so there is a drive to wall up and monetize their content more aggressively. That will probably fail, because all value they had was in community interaction. Who would want to train an LLM on post-2023 twitter content?
Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by Parmenidea on Saturday July 01, 2023 @01:07AM (#36546792)
Why do you think ZIRP won’t come back eventually?
Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by rglullis on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:29PM (#36545284)
By actually charging for their services?

For every gmail, how many independent email providers do you think exist out there?

Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by mr_00ff00 on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:51PM (#36546334)
Right but isn’t that what they are claiming would drive people away from the big companies?

Why would you choose to not pay for the big tech products and then pay for a smaller version?

Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by rglullis on Saturday July 01, 2023 @06:33AM (#36548649)
Because Big Tech demands big profits. They can not exist in worlds where they can not have a monopoly or oligopoly.

Smaller companies and ISVs, on the other hand, will be better off if their market is commoditized. They won't have to spend so much to compete in R&D, they just need to find each the best way to serve their (comparatively) small customer base.

Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by gpxyz on Friday June 30, 2023 @08:49PM (#36544911)
Genuinely curious: which centralized businesses existed in 8000 BCE?
Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by z2h-a6n on Friday June 30, 2023 @08:58PM (#36545004)
And more to the point, what fraction of centralized businesses in the past 10,000 (or even 1,000, or even 100) years did not eventually fail?
Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by roughly on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:06PM (#36545074)
As the saying goes, the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay liquid - everything eventually falls, but Twitter's not on the long side of "eventually" here.
Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by djbusby on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:49PM (#36546316)
Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by Nemo_bis on Saturday July 01, 2023 @03:27AM (#36547648)
I would bet that the first multinational organization to corner an intercontinental market was the apostolic church of Rome.

If https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_international_trad... is right, the necessary technology for international trade was not available before 4000 BCE (horse riding ~3700 BCE, long-distance sea travel ~2000 BCE).

Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by roughly on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:04PM (#36545050)
Two notes on this:

One is that centralized _business_ has certainly not been the primary organizational mode. You can talk about centralized _government_ (of whatever variety you'd like), but the distinction there is that the centralized government had some sense of itself in an ecosystem - a citizenry, a land, a future, etc. - and businesses do not.

The second is that centralized entities sure wrote a bunch of stuff _down_, but it's hard to say they were the primary organizational mode for any but the last 50-200 years - the reach of serious centralized bureaucracies has only really begun to match their propaganda in the industrial and now computer age. Until extremely recently, the actual effective reach of a centralized bureaucracy was a day's horseback ride - control degrades rapidly as one leaves the core. "Heaven is high and the emperor is far away", as the saying goes.

Edit: With regards to the second note, "Against the Grain" by James C. Scott is a solid read.

Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by Dalewyn on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:10PM (#36545102)
It's not centralized businesses that inevitably fail, it's businesses that become top dog that inevitably fail.

If you own a company and want it to last through the ages and you aren't literally the only guy in town, never become number one. Aim high, but don't hit the top.

The same can be said for countries and practically any organization or group. You stay an underdog if you do not want to ever fail.

Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by dizhn on Saturday July 01, 2023 @02:48AM (#36547401)
This doesn't make intuitive sense. Are you sure you're not seeing the results of survivorship bias? Or is there a mechanism in place that kills top players?
Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by Dalewyn on Saturday July 01, 2023 @05:51AM (#36548426)
It's because once you're top dog, you stop aiming high and start maintaining your top spot. You stop being ambitious and innovative, instead you start being anxious and wearing rose colored glasses.

That leads to complacency, corruption, and delusion, ultimately leading to failure.

Everyone and everything from mundane individuals to megacorporations and empires have all fallen from grace once they became top dog. No exceptions.

If you want to last, aim high but don't become top dog.

Re:Twitter now requires an account to view tweets by hgs3 on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:27PM (#36545256)
> It’s been the primary organizational mode for the last 10,000 years.

For most of human history, most businesses were small ma and pa shops operated by a few local people. These days large business chains are the norm. You could say that centralized big business killed the decentralized small ma and pa shops.