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Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by yawboakye on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @04:43AM (#36401295)
let's not celebrate loneliness. it's a sad property of the modern world that the author of the article has to connect to randos on the internet (ie readers of the article) but struggles to do same in person. let's not normalize an abnormality. humans are political animals: we thrive on associations of all sorts. solo-ing what is typically a couple activity should be lamented not praised.

to the author: find love, find family, and take your journeys together. you're human—it's about time you realized.

Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by keyle on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @04:53AM (#36401362)
Being alone is not related to being lonely.

In a bad marriage, you can feel more lonely than the most single person in the world.

In a big family, or in a suffocating relationship, you can dream to be alone because you need me-time to recharge the batteries, especially if you're an introvert.

It's true that humans do better in relationships that alone, but taking on long drives by yourself can be better than seeing a psychologist; reference: I rode motorcycles for 15+ years, and I've travelled the world. I miss it dearly. There is something to be said about experiencing the world for yourself and without sharing it.

Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by OfSanguineFire on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @04:57AM (#36401393)
The ancient Greeks were well aware that man is a political animal, but at the same time they had an entire genre of literature romanticizing shepherds who could sit alone in the wilderness and think their own thoughts. The desire for solitude out in nature is age-old.
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Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by dang on Thursday June 22, 2023 @05:43PM (#36439473)
Can you please not cross into personal attack and/or other swipes. You've unfortunately been doing this repeatedly (e.g. here, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36402415, and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35794991). It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for, and we have to ban accounts that post this way.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by yawboakye on Friday June 23, 2023 @03:59AM (#36444072)
at least we now know a few things:

(1) that there’s surveillance—whether based on username or vocabulary or ip address or a combination of them and more, we can’t tell.

(2) that calling out weak and unsound argument that is net negative information by way ad hominem—an accepted usage of ad hominem—is contra hacker news. it has resulted in the many and nonsensical comments.

(3) that dang goes hunting for people like me, politely threatening them with a ban if they don’t make quick adjustments to fit the culture. And what’s the culture? Don’t call out people for poorly thought-out argument, nor for potentially disparaging comments about whole groups of people.

Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by dang on Friday June 23, 2023 @12:08PM (#36448832)
People often respond to a moderation scolding by appealing to lofty values, but what you actually posted was "you're very stupid". That has nothing to do with "thought-out argument" or "whole groups of people". It's just internet name-calling.

If your intent is to do something nobler than that, great - but the rest of us don't have access to your intent, so the burden is on you to disambiguate it: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que....

Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by yawboakye on Saturday June 24, 2023 @02:21PM (#36461273)
i see you edited your comment to remove the offensive bit, before i could ask quis custodes custodit? but doesn’t honesty and culture of hacker news require that you acknowledge the edit in the text that remains?

i was going to say that scolding is what abusive adults do to helpless kids when they assume that kids can’t be reasoned with. so good thing you realized and took it out. just as you hope that i don’t call anyone stupid so i hope you don’t scold any of hacker news’ patrons anymore :)

take care and have a nice day!

Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by dang on Saturday June 24, 2023 @05:12PM (#36462691)
I add 'edit' once I think someone will have seen a comment, and certainly once there's a reply, but if there are no replies and the glue hasn't dried yet, I often take the first few minutes to edit. Lately I've taken to including the marker "[editing...]" whilst I'm doing that, but I can't remember if I did it in this case or not.

I use the word 'scolding' quite a bit: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que..., so it's not as if I was trying to hide any tracks there! But I don't use it in the spirit you're describing. I guess I use it to slightly mock the process, including my part in it. This whole internet forum thing is mostly trivial and largely ridiculous.

Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by dredmorbius on Saturday June 24, 2023 @08:34PM (#36464084)
I've referred to such reminders as "admonishments" which seems less pejorative than "scolding".
Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by becquerel on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @04:54AM (#36401372)
Please write an article about something you enjoy so we can psychoanalyse and pathologise you in turn.
Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by yawboakye on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @07:40AM (#36402621)
if i enjoy it there's no need to write about it: trying to capture in writing such an enjoyment, unless superficial (like in the case of the author), destroys it. if you're into football, this quote by pep guardiola captures this attitude so well. journalist have been trying hard to write about and describe lionel messi. guardiola's advice?

- "don't write about him, don't try to describe him, just watch him."

replace "him" and substitute with something you enjoy.

Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by fuckingkike on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @09:40AM (#36403813)
You giant smoothbrain.
Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by add-sub-mul-div on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @11:32AM (#36405505)
Nobody's supposed to write about things they like anymore because you got caught mixing up being alone with loneliness?
Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by ayemel on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @12:20PM (#36406400)
So you’re advocating for a world where articles are only written by people who hate the content? What a strange, sad take.
Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by ranting-moth on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @05:07AM (#36401468)
I'm assuming that you're not trolling so I'm going to reply. People deal in different ways to being alone. Some people abhor it. Totally, utterly despise it. It's the worst feeling in the world for them. I suspect you are in that group.

Then there are people that thoroughly enjoy being by themselves. It doesn't mean that they don't ever need company, just a lot of the time they feel a bliss being by themselves doing their own business. There is no overlap with that feeling and loneliness.

Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by yawboakye on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @07:26AM (#36402482)
you're jumping to conclusion, my dear friend. i have spent more time alone and by myself than you can imagine, and i still do. it's one of the best things to happen to a human being.

now, being alone (stationary) isn't the same as doing an activity alone. you seem to conflate the two. if you think traveling solo is fun, well you're being sold bullshit at best, worst you're acquiescing to a terrible experience and trying to find joy in it. like a prisoner-author talking about the joys of being locked up because it afforded them the necessary solitude to contemplate.

Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by ayemel on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @12:22PM (#36406424)
> if you think traveling solo is fun, well you're being sold bullshit at best, worst you're acquiescing to a terrible experience and trying to find joy in it

Maybe, just maybe, people experience things differently than you, ever thought about that?

Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by victorbojica on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @04:47AM (#36401321)
I don't think the author talks about loneliness. He talks about the experience of driving alone. Which everyone can do. Take it at face value.

And even if it would be about loneliness, there's nothing wrong in connecting with people over internet.

I do think everyone should travel alone at least once. I allows you to discover yourself.

Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by rimliu on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @05:08AM (#36401474)
Too many people are afraid to be alone and in the silence. Almost if they are afraid to hear that they will say to themselves.
Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by dazc on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @05:19AM (#36401542)
I have noticed this also, like some people need to be surrounded by a bubble of noise that disconnects them from others - even in fairly remote situations.
Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by Gordonjcp on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @05:28AM (#36401604)
The next person I see who is blasting music from their idiotic bluetooth speakers up on a remote hilltop is going to have to be taken off the bottom of the nearest corrie by the Mountain Rescue Team.
Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by OfSanguineFire on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @05:31AM (#36401623)
I just argued against the OP by referring to the ancient Greek (and Roman) genre of bucolic poetry, but here, too, I should note that that same genre depicted the wilderness as a good place to play one’s flute or lyre. Maybe people with Bluetooth speakers are just continuing an ancient tradition.
Re:A Love Letter to Driving Alone by UniverseHacker on Tuesday June 20, 2023 @02:17PM (#36408214)
Solitude is essential for mental health, especially for introverts. There's nothing lonely about solitude when you know you have friends, family, and love waiting for you at the end of the trip.