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Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by JohnFen on Friday June 16, 2023 @03:39PM (#36362636)
> This makes it very difficult to build in replaceable batteries!

Except it doesn't. The last two waterproof phones I had had user-replaceable batteries, a USB port, and even a headphone jack.

What it does is add a few dollars onto the BOM.

Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by phan on Friday June 16, 2023 @03:50PM (#36362808)
You must be joking if you think its just a BOM adjustment and a small cost... way to oversimplify the actual implementation
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by freeone3000 on Friday June 16, 2023 @03:54PM (#36362883)
There was a beautiful period where phones had a headphone jack and a USB-C connector and a replaceable battery and IP67 water resistance.
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by cout on Friday June 16, 2023 @06:23PM (#36364766)
Which phone was that?
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by bmicraft on Friday June 16, 2023 @06:39PM (#36364928)
Galaxy S5 did it just fine
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by scarface_74 on Saturday June 17, 2023 @02:03AM (#36367711)
Only if you kept the flap on the headphone jack…

https://www.gottabemobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-water-test-d....

Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by Jochim on Saturday June 17, 2023 @08:49AM (#36369765)
According to the article, the flap was to protect the USB port. The other internals were protected by an internal gasket on the removable back cover.
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by scarface_74 on Saturday June 17, 2023 @10:38AM (#36370549)
Only if you made absolutely sure that the battery was secured tightly - from the same article. Out of the 200M+ iPhones that Apple sells every year, how many people do you think wouldn’t put the battery and the cover on perfectly?
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by Jochim on Saturday June 17, 2023 @11:06AM (#36370820)
The same applies to gluing the rear cover back on, except instead of simply ensuring you've applied enough pressure and the gasket is in good condition, you now need to check that you've soldered the battery properly, positioned the glue correctly, heated the glue enough that it melts but doesn't fry your phone, and applied enough pressure evenly.
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by scarface_74 on Saturday June 17, 2023 @11:16AM (#36370929)
Well you don’t have to do anything. Spend $69 - $89 and let an Apple certified repair company to replace it and if they do something wrong, it’s covered under warranty.
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by Jochim on Saturday June 17, 2023 @12:07PM (#36371457)
Ah, there's nothing better than being granted the opportunity to burn money.
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by scarface_74 on Sunday June 18, 2023 @11:23AM (#36381095)
You bought an iphone and worried about spending $30 extra dollars?
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by JohnFen on Friday June 16, 2023 @03:55PM (#36362902)
All I'm saying is that you used to be able to get smartphones that were like this, and they weren't any more expensive than any other smartphones. (EDIT: I was wrong, they were about $25 more expensive.)

So this is demonstrably possible. The only reason I can think of that it's not done anymore is cost savings.

Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by Sander_Marechal on Friday June 16, 2023 @06:10PM (#36364605)
And shaving 0.3mm of the thickness!
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by kaba0 on Saturday June 17, 2023 @04:57AM (#36368509)
Modern phones are packed to the brim with features. My phone has a goddamn LIDAR scanner! I really don’t think it is feasible anymore, and I think most people would prefer an extra 2-300 mAh over swappable battery. Of course replacing it once by a dedicated shop each 3 years should be possible.
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by numpad0 on Friday June 16, 2023 @04:20PM (#36363260)
Yeah, more like $200 on price and added trait of overheating.
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by COGlory on Friday June 16, 2023 @03:59PM (#36362979)
Kyocera has been doing it for years.
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by veave on Friday June 16, 2023 @04:18PM (#36363232)
https://fdn2.mobgsm.com/vv/pics/kyocera/kyocera-duraforce-pr...

I don't want my phone to look like that by law.

Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by numpad0 on Friday June 16, 2023 @04:24PM (#36363304)
Only actual people who must have an IP68 battery replaceable phones are that kind of people. Others just go for an iPhone and just pays for shop replacements few years later.
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by RobotToaster on Friday June 16, 2023 @05:25PM (#36364119)
It looks awesome.
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by astrange on Friday June 16, 2023 @06:12PM (#36364629)
Looks like what a 15 year old at a 90s LAN party would have their desktop themed to.
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by bmicraft on Friday June 16, 2023 @06:40PM (#36364943)
Galaxy S5 did it
Re:European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batt... by yakireev on Saturday June 17, 2023 @05:06AM (#36368549)
> The last two waterproof phones I had had user-replaceable batteries, a USB port, and even a headphone jack.

Asking unironically: what were they? I want such a phone