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Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by morkalork on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @05:25PM (#36317628)
At the end of the day though, I can't help but feel like myself and my countrymen are getting a raw deal.

Are high interest rates lowering the cost of groceries, gas, or the cost of living in general? No. Are they blowing up everyone's mortgages one by one as they come up for renewal? Yes. Why am I, an individual, being punished for other's mistakes and mismanagement?

Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by frumper on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @05:30PM (#36317723)
High interest rates are meant to lower inflation. That wouldn't reduce prices, but it would reduce the rate at which prices increase. It seems to be doing that. Also, the article is talking about the FED, so looking at the mortgages from a US perspective, they don't come up for renewal. If you planned on permanently low rates, then that sounds like you have mismanaged your mortgage decisions. Rates have been at historic lows, there isn't much room to go but up.
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by morkalork on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @05:39PM (#36317847)
I don't live in the US but the country I do live in is closely integrated with the US and follows a very similar trajectory in terms of policy decisions.

"If you planned on permanently low rates, then that sounds like you have mismanaged your mortgage decisions" this is the kind of tone deaf, consumer blaming crap that is going to get our current government booted out and replaced with a regressive, populist conservative government. Hooray. But I guess they deserve it?

Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by tekla on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @05:53PM (#36318074)
> consumer blaming crap

Is this how people refer to making poor decisions now?

Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by sigstoat on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @06:08PM (#36318266)
seems to be popular to believe that offering consumers a choice that might not be great for them is immoral and should be banned.
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by morkalork on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @06:56PM (#36318791)
Right, so, let's do things like abolish the FDA and bring back usury instead?
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by FrustratedMonky on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @06:07PM (#36318248)
I think it is response to 2008 crash, where consumers were blamed for buying houses. "those stupid consumers, why did they buy houses with the home loans we gave them, it's their fault".

Since 2008, this has become a more common refrain from the right, that consumers are to blame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp-Jw-5Kx8k https://www.cnbc.com/2014/02/24/5-years-later-rick-santelli-...

Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by bombcar on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @06:00PM (#36318171)
The USA is rare in that the 30 fixed mortgage is standard and anyone who gets an adjustable or balloon mortgage is suspected of being up to something.
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by chollida1 on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @06:12PM (#36318321)
> this is the kind of tone deaf, consumer blaming crap that is going to get our current government booted out and replaced with a regressive, populist conservative government. Hooray. But I guess they deserve it?

But it’s also very true that they made the decisions that lead to this.

I’m Canadian so I’m in a similar boat to your country.

We’ve had a terrible government for thr past 10 years and they’ve made terrible spending decisions that have ruined Canada. I like your country, though, we’ll have to wait 3 more years to start to undo the damage the liberals have down to Canada so consider yourself lucky you aren’t from here:(

Rates were at historical lows while a normal Historical rate was around 5%.

If you planned your life around rates that were at levels never seen before then you did make a mistake and people should bear the brunt of that.

That was outright gambling I’d you managed your life around rates not returning to historical norms.

I feel that we should not treat people like helpless children and instead treat them like adults

Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by tick_tock_tick on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @08:37PM (#36319686)
USA does fixed rated mortgages to prevent issues like this. Variable rate mortgages are risky and the average customer isn't equipped to understand them.
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by pc86 on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @05:35PM (#36317799)
> Are high interest rates lowering the cost of groceries, gas, or the cost of living in general? No.

Limiting inflation doesn't necessarily mean causing deflation.

> Are they blowing up everyone's mortgages one by one as they come up for renewal? Yes.

This is the risk of getting an adjustable rate mortgage, which is a decision.

Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by BitwiseFool on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @05:57PM (#36318135)
I feel extremely fortunate that I was able to get a sub 3% fixed rate mortgage. I still can't believe that a lender was willing to bet that a 3% mortgage would be profitable over the course of the next 30 years. If I were a lender I wouldn't be happy with issuing fixed rate mortgages.
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by medvezhenok on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @06:01PM (#36318184)
A lot of those mortgages got sold off into MBS and then got bought out by the Federal Reserve. So if you had a 3% mortgage, chances are, the FED partially subsidized your mortgage at the expense of the American taxpayer (which is what a lot of people are rightfully angry about).
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by pc86 on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @11:29AM (#36327448)
Who is angry about that (rightfully or otherwise)? I hear a lot of complaints about various aspects of the mortgage industry, and the fact that the fed partially subsidizes some mortgages some of the time is not one that I hear a lot.
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by frumper on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @06:01PM (#36318180)
The lender likely sold it off. There is a good chance a Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae owns the mortgage, otherwise it may have been sold to investors. It isn't a wholly free market decision to think your loan would be profitable over 30 years.
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by nly on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @06:17PM (#36318371)
Don't worry, they made a profit on your mortgage. The interest rate risk would have been hedged away in the swap market.
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by Marsymars on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @05:59PM (#36318152)
> This is the risk of getting an adjustable rate mortgage, which is a decision.

In many jurisdictions, adjustable rate mortgages are all that are typically available with reasonable rates.

e.g. if I check mortgage rates in Canada, I see 5-year fixed for 4.94%, 5-year variable for 5.79% and 25-year fixed for 9.75%.

Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by pc86 on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @10:03PM (#36320465)
The article is about the fed, so only US mortgages are really relevant.
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by Marsymars on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @09:43AM (#36325805)
I don't think restricting commentary in that way is reasonable. The "Do high interest rates fix inflation?" question is relevant to many countries other than the US, the top-voted comment on the the post is a link to the NPR podcast about how it relates to Turkey, and this particular comment thread is in general applicable to many countries, given how, e.g. the Bank of Canada effectively mirrors the US Fed in monetary policy.

If you want to restrict your commentary to the US, you should make that clear in your post, e.g. "This is the risk of getting an adjustable rate mortgage in the US, which is a decision."

Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by realjhol on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @05:27PM (#36317665)
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by UncleMeat on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @06:01PM (#36318188)
Gasoline is down -19.7% over the last year.
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by chrisco255 on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @06:03PM (#36318216)
And it's what, 50% higher than 3 years ago? Anecdotal data points are useless.
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by UncleMeat on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @08:16PM (#36319531)
It isn't anecdotal data. This is the number from BLS.
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by chrisco255 on Wednesday June 14, 2023 @03:25PM (#36331231)
Yes, it's anecdotal data. That is to say, it's a single, arbitrary cherry picked data point that one cannot draw meaningful conclusions from, since it's not statistically significant. Gas prices are very volatile, and anything short of a long trend analysis will tell you absolutely nothing.

Gas is more than 25% higher than it was for all of 2018, 2019, and 2020. It is trending higher, in spite of the pull back from recent highs in the wake of the Ukraine war.

Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by shakil on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @08:01PM (#36319406)
Here's a contrarian opinion: Inflation isn't all that bad, if you have a fixed rate loan (i.e. mortgage) that is larger than all your savings put together, and as long as you don't need to sell or refinance, you will come out ahead. Keep in mind inflation requires a wage/price spiral, which means your salaries are also increasing to keep pace with the rising prices, while the loan amount stays the same, so repaying it becomes easier.
Re:Do High Interest Rates Fix High Inflation? by iopq on Tuesday June 13, 2023 @11:21PM (#36321030)
Well, I have enough to buy a house, but it's in stocks. They have been beating the inflation recently, but that's because the high beta ones dropped like crazy during the rate hikes so I'm just making back my losses