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Re:Buy Well. Buy Once by lghh on Saturday June 10, 2023 @10:56AM (#36271056)
For the shoes example, there's also value in reducing waste. 10 pairs of rubber Crocs that you throw out every year create much more waste than 1 pair of 500 dollar leather boots that can be repaired and are much more environmentally friendly when they are eventually disposed of.

100% agree about the Corolla though.

Re:Buy Well. Buy Once by Cyph0n on Saturday June 10, 2023 @11:29AM (#36271377)
Right, because reducing waste is what people buying $500 shoes are worried about.
Re:Buy Well. Buy Once by KerrAvon on Saturday June 10, 2023 @11:46AM (#36271530)
Corolla is a terrible example. It’s not a nice car to actually drive compared to almost any other. In that price range: Subaru and Honda will be as reliable and much better cars.
Re:Buy Well. Buy Once by LargeDiggerNick on Saturday June 10, 2023 @12:11PM (#36271749)
False. Corollas are one of the best cars ever made.
Re:Buy Well. Buy Once by rationalist on Monday June 12, 2023 @02:30PM (#36298629)
I had a relatively recent Corolla. I put some leather seat covers and floor liners in it and it was nice.
Re:Buy Well. Buy Once by moffkalast on Saturday June 10, 2023 @11:48AM (#36271551)
Waste disposal is usually a flat rate though, so it doesn't really matter financially how much waste you produce (in terms of budget).
Re:Buy Well. Buy Once by waboremo on Saturday June 10, 2023 @12:24PM (#36271880)
I'm not so sure about this comparison even. There are multiple factors at play that you're just assuming, that the $500 leather boots are going to be worn for 10 years to be equivalent to the crocs, but I'm not sure that's the norm. Excluding those who have the means easily for $500 leather boots, who likely will just buy more of them to rotate (thus creating waste). Surely someone who spends $500 on leather boots is also going to care about their status, and therefore might get them repaired far more often.

These repairs, while likely less wasteful than full-on recycling, have costs attributed to them. It costs to produce the goods required to repair. These goods often aren't super sustainable products either. With these factors in mind, is the comparison equal? Can we absolutely stand by the idea that paying for $500 leather boots will be better for the environment and you for 10 years?

Which is why when making these comparisons we should really get into the nitty gritty details, otherwise we're just handwaving a bunch of things and making assumptions to justify our position. By doing so, we'll be able to make better choices with proper information rather than shifting the burden of environmental impact elsewhere (to a repair shop or shoe makers, etc).

Note, this is not a defense of crocs vs leather boots. The product categories are just throwaway examples.