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Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by Sharlin on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:11PM (#36247073)
And I can guarantee that there are approximately five people using Reddit via a browser on mobile. Mobile means the app, to a precision of two or three significant digits.
Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by layer8 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:16PM (#36247142)
I’m one of those five people then. Very casual use, but that’s probably the large majority of Reddit users.
Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by sroussey on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:31PM (#36247424)
I’m one of those five as well. I have the Reddit app but still use mobile web.
Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by Sharlin on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:18PM (#36247181)
I'd wager that most Reddit users these days, casual or not, are only dimly aware that the platform even exists as a website. Or at least a large plurality.
Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by layer8 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:31PM (#36247434)
According to [1], Reddit has 52 million daily active users (and 430 monthly users), while according to [2] the Reddit app has 17 million daily active users. Both numbers are from 2021. So only about a third of DAUs would be using the Reddit app. Apollo has 50,000 yearly subscribers, so is probably more on the negligible side.

[1] https://www.businessofapps.com/data/reddit-statistics/

[2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1255714/reddit-app-dau-w...

Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by internetter on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:39PM (#36247578)
> Apollo has 50,000 yearly subscribers, so is probably more on the negligible side overall.

Note this figure does not include free users, nor the users of the plethora of other clients... But regardless

Clearly, Reddit has deemed 3rd party clients pose a huge cost to their platform, otherwise they wouldn't charge through the roof. IMO, all these numbers are meaningless given this fact.

Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by layer8 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @04:26PM (#36248416)
I’m not sure what Reddit’s rationale is here. Third-party app users are less than 1% (can’t find the link where I read this). The most plausible explanation is that they want to get rid of a potential future threat, because I don’t believe that current third-party usage constitutes any substantial loss. Otherwise buying out Apollo as mentioned in TFA should have been an easy decision.
Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by seviu on Thursday June 08, 2023 @05:43PM (#36249605)
Maybe I am a little naive here but…

Wouldn’t an ad support guideline be enough for third party apps to continue coexisting with the official Reddit app?

Call it that, or sdk. But if ad based revenue is so important for Reddit, getting Apollo and the rest to properly display and track ads is imho a no brainer and would totally solve the issue at hand.

As I said maybe I am too naive, and I only see part of the picture.

Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by kaba0 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @04:46PM (#36248729)
You assume they act rationally. As mentioned in the post, the API costs are orders of magnitude more than the expected value from an average user.
Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by josephg on Thursday June 08, 2023 @06:58PM (#36250434)
In the post further down they discuss that. Reddit’s rationale is opportunity cost per user, not the price of serving the api.
Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by bee_rider on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:33PM (#36247467)
We’ve got lots of web devs and startup space folks on this site, I guess somebody must know how to look this sort of thing up?

I googled “percentage of reddit mobile traffic in app” but got a bunch of marketing sites, and wasn’t able to sort out which ones were bullshit. I bet there’s a good source for this sort of thing though.

In any case, we don’t need to wager right? It seems like this ought to be measurable.

Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by tootie on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:48PM (#36247721)
I'd wager you're completely wrong. Reddit at this point gets a ton of traffic from search. Remember the old 90/9/1 rule. 90% of users are just browsing cat pictures and are eyeball fodder for ads.
Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by silisili on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:53PM (#36247808)
As one of the five, I didn't believe this so went trying to determine more realistic numbers.

Per the link below, mobile web is anywhere from 15 to 60% of mobile traffic. Reddit isn't listed, and it's 4 years old, so who knows, but I'd imagine it falls somewhere in the same range, probably closer to the lower end?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1019768/us-retailers-app...

Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by quickthrowman on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:54PM (#36247823)
I am one of the five. I use the Reddit website on iOS Safari and have for years. I only read one subreddit, so my usage pattern may be different than a normal reddit user. The only thing that annoys me is the ever persistent ‘website or app’ modal dialogue but I’m used to it now.

I try to use mobile websites instead of apps because I feel like the tracking data a company can get from a web browser is less granular than app tracking data.

Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by atdrummond on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:57PM (#36247877)
I use old.reddit on my mobile browser.

The app sucks.

Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by fsckboy on Thursday June 08, 2023 @05:18PM (#36249235)
old.reddit is starting to come apart at the seams, tho. (maybe it's because r/subs don't keep the style sheets up to date or something? i dunno) in many cases you can't up or downvote, there's no search button, there's no sidebar with the flair and the rules/mods, etc.
Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by sentientslug on Thursday June 08, 2023 @05:43PM (#36249608)
You might be the only person that browses old.reddit with subreddit CSS turned on
Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by ericd on Thursday June 08, 2023 @06:15PM (#36249975)
Err why? The css adds a lot of flavor, generally doesn’t get in the way of functionality.
Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by sentientslug on Friday June 09, 2023 @11:44AM (#36259558)
I don't want any flavor, that's the entire point of old.reddit. I use it to consume information, not for eye candy.
Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by fsckboy on Thursday June 08, 2023 @09:46PM (#36252102)
I used "style sheet" in a generic sense, rather than to mean CSS (I remember Microsoft (Multitool) Word v1.0) and I was referring to the layout of a subreddit home page which I've never played with but I'm aware the moderators have some control over.

I know how to turn off Page Style in Firefox (manually for every page) which is CSS related, but otherwise have no idea what you are referring to

Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by cyberax on Thursday June 08, 2023 @04:22PM (#36248349)
Wrong. Their mobile crapp is well, crap. That's why they try to shove it up everybody's arse with the "Open this page in our app" blurbs.
Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by lapcat on Thursday June 08, 2023 @04:35PM (#36248562)
> And I can guarantee that there are approximately five people using Reddit via a browser on mobile.

Apparently all five of them use my little web browser extension with Reddit-specific features, requested by users.

But I can guarantee that your estimate is totally wrong.

Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by seized on Thursday June 08, 2023 @07:20PM (#36250706)
Using Reddit via browser here, never used an app for it yet as I like tabs.
Re:Apollo will close down on June 30th by sebastiansm on Thursday June 08, 2023 @07:49PM (#36251018)
Another web browser mobile here.