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Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by washadjeffmad on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:34AM (#36243630)
We've got sets of Indian brass, Korean steel, and Japanese lacquered wood food containers that we use in addition to ceramics and glass. The glass chips, and once it does we tend to avoid using it for food.

Because all of these things last or compound over a lifetime, it's only expensive to be healthful if you wait.

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by idiotsecant on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:36AM (#36243670)
What is with putting superfluous place names in front of things? Are you trying to sound fancy? You have steel and wood food containers.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by lostlogin on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:39AM (#36243720)
Those containers have a shape and style and the place names allow me to visualise what they look like.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by idiotsecant on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:40AM (#36243755)
Nobody else knows what your country of origin status symbol words are supposed to mean, so using them to communicate has one clear motive and it isn't clarity
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by cybervaz on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:36PM (#36244674)
nah, you're just being overly reactive about things. You're not contributing to the main topic
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by kwhitefoot on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:50PM (#36244932)
Perhaps no one knows but once it is specified they can at least look them up if they feel inclined.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by ajmurmann on Thursday June 08, 2023 @01:15PM (#36245334)
I didn't know what a Korean steel container looked like, but Google gave me clarity and now I want some.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by jxf on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:48AM (#36243902)
American cheese is different from other kinds of cheese. Canadian bacon is different from other types of bacon. English muffins are different from other types of muffins.

OP isn't trying to be "fancy", they're trying to communicate. This is a weird thing to get agitated about.

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by myshpa on Thursday June 08, 2023 @05:00PM (#36248974)
What we have here ... is a failure to communicate.

(I'll see myself out)

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by washadjeffmad on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:20PM (#36247229)
Why even be that specific? My matter holders are made of matter.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by JeremyHerrman on Thursday June 08, 2023 @06:44PM (#36250269)
This reminds me of a scene from the Simpsons [1]:

Homer: Hmm. I wonder why he's so eager to go to the garage?

Moe: The "garage"? Hey fellas, the "garage"! Well, ooh la di da, Mr. French Man.

Homer: Well what do you call it?

Moe: A car hole!

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5t9w98afJo

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by bombela on Thursday June 08, 2023 @11:53AM (#36243991)
Isn't lacquer technically a sort of plastic?

I could find images for Indian Brass Container to learn what it is. But I didn't find anything conclusive for Korean steel.

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by BizarroLand on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:14PM (#36244330)
Lacquer is resin from trees, not plastic.

I don't know if it's better for you than plastic or really anything about its chemical composition, but it's not plastic.

Edit: After reading more, there is an acrylic lacquer that was developed in the 1950s that contains plastics, but outside of that, normal or traditional lacquers are typically biological in origin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacquer

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by ericd on Thursday June 08, 2023 @01:03PM (#36245138)
What percentage of lacquers these days do you think is the old natural type? I’d wager it’s very low.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by BizarroLand on Thursday June 08, 2023 @05:03PM (#36249023)
For mass produced items, I would agree.

For stuff made by lone craftsmen & small boutique shops, maybe 50/50? Maybe less?

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by BobbyJo on Thursday June 08, 2023 @01:30PM (#36245543)
When you say "normal", does that mean "common"? As in, if I buy lacquered wood, can I expect it to be synthetic or biological? Is there a way to tell, or do you just have to trust the source?
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by BizarroLand on Thursday June 08, 2023 @05:02PM (#36249010)
By Normal, I mean "Non-Synthetic" as it regards to lacquers.

For the lacquer you buy in the stores, you will have to examine the contents to see if you have actual lacquer or synthetic petroleum lacquers.

As far as wood products, if it was made after the early-mid 80's, assume that if it was lacquered it was done so with a synthetic, or if it is some form of manufactured wood.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1986-11-09-860324...

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by pengaru on Thursday June 08, 2023 @02:59PM (#36246890)
My impression is that finishes free of petroleum products have become somewhat of a niche cottage industry these days.

So I wouldn't assume anything acquired finished by someone else is free of such things, regardless of whatever once-precise names they used to describe the finish.

Even when you try DIY-finish something with an eye towards food-safety it's rather challenging. E.g. the "Boiled Linseed Oil" you find on store shelves isn't actually boiled linseed oil, it's usually been adulterated with petroleum distillates and sometimes toxic "dryers" (cobalt comes to mind) to achieve the results boiling used to serve.

Here in CA the once common Turpentine which is literally distilled pine trees can't even be sold to the public due to VOCs. The stocked replacements are mostly petroleum distillates, labeled as known to cause cancer in the state.

The oil industry has infected everything

Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by autoexec on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:41PM (#36247627)
Why would oil companies dispose of their toxic byproducts when they can sell them to companies who will poison the public with them? Since it makes them money and there's zero risk of legal repercussions for it, the only thing that would stop them is having morals and the oil industry certainly isn't burdened with those.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by NoZebra120vClip on Friday June 09, 2023 @07:33AM (#36256280)
This transitive logic applies to chemical companies and pharmaceuticals, more than anyone realizes.
Re:Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits by hinkley on Thursday June 08, 2023 @06:27PM (#36250107)
That resin comes from a tree that is the source of the name for urishiol - the chemical that makes poison ivy such a nasty experience.

It's probably better than plastic, but remember that coral snake venom and puffer fish toxin are 'all natural' and so the concept of all natural is utter and complete bullshit.