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Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by kpw94 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @02:55PM (#36231691)
Idk what's happening to the Windows/file explorer teams, this is embarrassing.

Another issue I've had in newest file explorer, (probably a bug, unless they're trying to get rid of ".txt" files), is this one also reported on Twitter by "MittringMartin":

https://twitter.com/MittringMartin/status/166378202005572812...

can't do "right click" > "New" > "Text document".

Happens on my system too, a stock windows install on a surface laptop, for which I've never messed around with any obscure settings.

It's also gone from the "shift right click" menu (aka the good old menu)...

Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by Strom on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @03:23PM (#36232106)
This smells like a bug. I have Windows 11 Pro and I'm seeing weird behavior in this menu.

1. Historically it used to contain a bunch of blank file types, including .txt files.

2. Now it only has a Folder, Shortcut, WinRAR archive. That's right, only three items. This has to be a bug.

Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by rightbyte on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @03:36PM (#36232301)
You got WinRAR installed? Is it still alive or are you doing archeology?
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by fredoralive on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @03:42PM (#36232394)
He's got to get value of money out of it, after all registering WinRAR it isn't cheap.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by hulitu on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @03:44PM (#36232431)
There were a lot of programs distributed as rar archives.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by Strom on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @03:51PM (#36232541)
I've been using WinRAR for multiple decades and it works well. I'm not about to rearchive all my stuff with a new format so of course I still use it regularly. If I were a new computer user I might choose something else as I certainly experimented with various tools back in 2000. WinAce comes to mind as a decent competitor of the time.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by ErikGulliksen on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @04:24PM (#36233023)
I believe 7-Zip can open RAR archives.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by enlyth on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @05:05PM (#36233560)
7-Zip's GUI is very lacking, at least on Windows it doesn't have the basic feature of opening the folder where you extracted the files automatically
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by jacooper on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @06:44PM (#36234694)
Use Peazip then.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by tredre3 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @08:57PM (#36235793)
... Or just stick with WinRAR, which works better than both of those, and is still supported?
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by jacooper on Thursday June 08, 2023 @12:49PM (#36244909)
And is closed source with an annoying pop up.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by vram22 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @05:06PM (#36233570)
Was just going to mention 7-Zip after reading GP post, then read yours.

Yes. I've used 7-Zip some, earlier, and found it to be quite good. IIRC, from both command-line and GUI.

Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by vram22 on Saturday June 10, 2023 @02:24AM (#36268152)
And IIRC the command-line options were like tar; they could be typed without a leading hyphen.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by EdwardDiego on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @04:17PM (#36232912)
I still have a valid WinRAR licence, I think.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by wongarsu on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @05:46PM (#36234063)
7-zip's GUI is basically an incomplete WinRar clone, and WinRar has a couple more features. Most notably recovery records to be able to recover from mild bit rot, but it can also preserve more NTFS attributes of your files (saving alternate streams, security records, turning hard links into links) and can optionally respect the Archive attribute of files (archiving only files with the attribute set, clearing the attribute after, optionally deleting them).

It's a very solid archival program. I wouldn't recommend that everyone runs out and buys it, and I use 7zip more than Winrar, but it does have some advantages, especially on Windows.

Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by ComodoHacker on Thursday June 08, 2023 @04:23AM (#36238807)
Not only that, WinRAR is also well optimized and polished. 7-zip development has basically stopped because no one pays for it.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by Timon3 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @04:52AM (#36238992)
They just released a new beta last month. Doesn't seem very "stopped" to me.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by ComodoHacker on Thursday June 08, 2023 @05:05AM (#36239092)
After almost a year since last stable.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by Timon3 on Thursday June 08, 2023 @05:12AM (#36239140)
Then call it slow development, not stopped. A stable a year ago and a beta a month ago is more active than most software out there, for which development literally stopped.

Or do you have any affiliation with WinRAR?

Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by ComodoHacker on Thursday June 08, 2023 @06:47AM (#36239763)
No affiliation, I just use both and compare.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by unnouinceput on Thursday June 08, 2023 @06:14AM (#36239526)
"...and WinRar has a couple more features"

Like the one that 7zip has AES256 encryption and WinRar can't open it, that one?

Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by robotnikman on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @07:03PM (#36234886)
Oddly enough, I ran into an odd case a few months ago with a zip file which required me to use winrar.

In windows, when you extract a zip file that contains japanese characters, they get 'garbled', which can cause problems if you need to maintain the directory and file names. I tried with 7-Zip as well with the same outcome.

I found a fix on stackoverflow [1] which mentioned using winrar, as it had an option to change the name encoding for archived file names. Using that I was able to extract the zip and the files and directories maintained their original japanese names.

[1] - https://superuser.com/questions/554108/extracting-a-zip-file...

Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by somat on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @08:18PM (#36235484)
infozip also has problems with japanese characters. I ended up solving the problem with the python zip module. considerably more awkward to use but it offers a lot of control over the extraction process.

I did not look it very closely so I don't know what exactly infozip was getting incorrect in my case. but I did find this interesting bug report from 2012. Apparently a lot of encoders are sloppy about the spec and will leave header fields zeroed rather than set them. and if infozip reads a header that says the zipfile was created by dos(a zero) it believes it and extracts it using a dos compatible encoding.

https://sourceforge.net/p/infozip/support-requests/10/

Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by okamiueru on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @04:29PM (#36233098)
Knowing a bit of what goes on under the hood. Every time I have to use Windows, I just marvel at it actually working.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by johnwalkr on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @04:32PM (#36233135)
I still have 20 things in that menu in windows 11, but it hangs for a good 10s whenever I open it.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by stronglikedan on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @04:42PM (#36233256)
> Idk what's happening to the Windows/file explorer teams

I'd say whatever it is, it's been happening for a looong time, considering they've still never fixed the glaring bug in previous versions where the down arrow takes you to the second file in the list. Or where you go to save a file (save as), and you put your cursor at the end of the file name to rename just part of it, the cursor randomly-but-not-always jumps to the beginning of the file.

Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by wongarsu on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @05:35PM (#36233899)
At least they eventually fixed the bug where "New/Text Document" thought file names weren't allowed to start with a dot.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by zamadatix on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @05:31PM (#36233846)
I was going to reply but then I realized I already have before! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35516321
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by recursive on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @06:28PM (#36234523)
This is hilarious. Somehow I responded to both.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by recursive on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @06:27PM (#36234516)
I really don't think this is a bug. The first element is focused when you start, but not selected. Pressing down moves the focus down, and selects. If you want to select the focused element, press 'Space'.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by wruza on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @08:37PM (#36235636)
This collection-/tableview technique is known by maybe 0.1% of users and used by much less. You can also alt-arrow(?) to move the cursor around and select more elements with space. Never seen anyone use that. Instead of clinging onto this cursor nonsense they’d better finally made it work as (no selection, arrows select next/prev, [modifier+]mouse selects as usual) and get rid of a cursor. And make a proper tree view. Everyone does it this way except explorer.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by innocenat on Thursday June 08, 2023 @02:04AM (#36237840)
I would hate if Microsoft "fix" it because it has been this way since at least Win 98 and is what I am used to.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by recursive on Thursday June 08, 2023 @02:20AM (#36237965)
What percent of users navigate explorer with a keyboard at all? I'd hate to lose keyboard selection over this. Ctrl and shift do different things and I use them both.
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by divingdragon on Thursday June 08, 2023 @03:08AM (#36238319)
I do this all the time.

Every once in a while, navigating with the keyboard in Explorer will cause the window thread to hang up in a busy loop and I have to kill it. I have no idea if this is an Explorer bug or caused by other stuff.

Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by michaelcampbell on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @08:57PM (#36235794)
> Idk what's happening to the Windows/file explorer teams, this is embarrassing.

They've saved a boatload of money by offshoring this work.

Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by acc_297 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @10:02PM (#36236239)
I’ve got the same problem on my new laptop it’s super annoying
Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by Culonavirus on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @10:53PM (#36236593)
> Idk what's happening to the Windows/file explorer teams

They spent all their creative and time budget on implementing the new explorer tabbed interface :D

Re:Windows 11 calls a zip file a 'postcode file' in UK English by NoPicklez on Thursday June 08, 2023 @06:10PM (#36249928)
Regardless of the menu problem.

Why could he just heard for Notepad in the start menu and open it there? Rather than going through the process of gutting out a publisher file.