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Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by spiffytech on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @06:26PM (#36219932)
Does that mean the accurate term would be "manga"?

I've never been sure if the only difference between the two is still frames vs motion, or something else.

Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by lmm on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @07:27PM (#36220536)
"Manga style drawing" would be misleading since manga are drawn in black and white.
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by codetrotter on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @07:50PM (#36220749)
But the cover art of manga is often colour. So it should still count as manga even if it has colour IMO
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by lmm on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @07:54PM (#36220796)
"Manga style drawing" would be generally understood to mean looking like 188/190 of the pages of a manga rather than looking like 2/190 of the pages of a manga.
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by bryans on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @08:50PM (#36221277)
Your pedantry is neither appropriate nor correct. Manga is most often black and white purely because of time and budget constraints, not because manga's style is defined as black and white. There are tons of full-color manga, and many that become popular have color editions released.
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by lmm on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @09:22PM (#36221554)
> Manga is most often black and white purely because of time and budget constraints

True but irrelevant. The style of the medium coevolved with those constraints and is suited towards them (as with most media). A manga-style drawing is stylised in particular ways that (among other things) allow it to look better in black and white than a typical drawing would.

> There are tons of full-color manga, and many that become popular have color editions released.

They exist (indeed I own some) but they are the exception rather than the rule. Again, "manga-style drawing" would be generally understood to mean a drawing that looked like a typical drawing from a manga.

Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by codetrotter on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @01:56AM (#36223368)
> "manga-style drawing" would be generally understood to mean a drawing that looked like a typical drawing from a manga.

Generally understood by who though?

I see your point about what you said about the colours

> manga-style drawing is stylised in particular ways that (among other things) allow it to look better in black and white than a typical drawing would.

In particular I agree that the black and white manga drawing uses special techniques to look good in black and white. Such as notably the half-tone patterns that they use.

But I think you are placing more weight on this particular thing than perhaps most people do.

There are many defining features of manga aside from the lack of colour.

I guess to determine whether or not it is generally agreed that it must be black and white, we’d have to interview a bunch of people about what style some images were, and see if an overwhelming majority thought that colour mattered or not :p

Or, less thoroughly we might just ask the denizens of the 4chan /a/ board. They probably have some strong opinions about what counts as manga or not.

Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by rjh29 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @09:46AM (#36226730)
I think it's less about black/white and more about the outlined art style. A lot of these QR codes are painted. There are painted manga (Lost in Abyss comes to mind) but they are a rarity.
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by brigandish on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @08:25PM (#36221051)
Mostly, not always. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorful_(manga)
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by artdigital on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @08:43PM (#36221220)
“Anime” comes from the Japanese Katakana word for animation (animeeeshon), so it usually refers to the animated/moving images
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by tuukkah on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @02:20AM (#36223504)
Intriguing, why does it have a triple e when written - is it just a way to emphasize that the vowel is pronounced long, or is it reallly long?
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by e12e on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @04:07AM (#36224217)
It's a bit of an artifact of the "dash indicating long e":

アニメーション - a-ni-me-ee-ts(u)-yo-n

Just means long e "me". It could be written more like:

anime-tsyon (dash indicating long vowel). Or: a-ni-me-e-ts(u)-yo-n.

Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by tuukkah on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @05:01AM (#36224524)
What I've seen most is the line put above the vowel, resulting in animē (but difficult to type). As there is no additional (fourth) syllable, a-ni-mee would be more logical to me, rather than a-ni-me-ee or a-ni-me-e.

That being said, I like how the triple vowel makes it clear it's not the same sound as in say meet. (This gives me the idea to change my name to tuuukkkah...)

Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by rjh29 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @05:25AM (#36224691)
Three 'e's is not correct. ー is a single mora, so should usually be one vowel. E.g. ラーメン is raamen not raaamen.

ショ is sho (or syo if you use Japan-style romanization) not tsu.

So the proper romanisation is something like 'animeeshon'. That said, romanisation is often done inconsistently, e.g. Osaka vs. oosaka.

Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by e12e on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @06:59AM (#36225314)
> ショ is sho (or syo if you use Japan-style romanization) not tsu.

Of course - I'm a little rusty and sometimes confuse シ (shi) and ツ (tsu) - even when obvious from context :/

Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by artdigital on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @08:15PM (#36235464)
I just wanted to make it clear that its a long “e”, but pretty much the same word as “animation”, not the correct english spelling of an english-imported word :p
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by tough on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @07:23AM (#36225471)
It's adopted from english?

Just sounds like how a japanese would write animation

Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by artdigital on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @08:16PM (#36235474)
Yeah that’s pretty much it. Katakana words are mostly just imported foreign words

There’s “moving images” (動画), but that’s used for video in general, not specific to animation

Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by astrange on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @08:44PM (#36221232)
Well, they're "the style that image models called anime produce".

These mostly start with real-world images and then are fine-tuned with Chinese/Japanese commercial illustrator art, which isn't anime (flat-colored TV episode screenshots) or manga (monochrome halftoned comic book pages).

The result is like 15% photorealistic shaded, so it's not a lot like anything else out there.

Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by numpad0 on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @09:56PM (#36221845)
There is, surprisingly, no correct labels exist for this class of images. Anime is incorrect because it’s not an animated film or directly derived from one, manga is kind of correct but modern definition is just panelists comics, nijigen is another term but it’s slightly deprecative, hentai is only for porn and also won’t be understood in Japanese. There just don’t seem to be one.
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by nagonago on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @10:50PM (#36222275)
"Anime style" seems to be a decent compromise that is easily understood by most people, even if technically incorrect. AFAIK a similar term is often used in Japan: "アニメ風イラスト" (Anime style Illustration)
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by adzm on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @12:34AM (#36222866)
To the vast majority of people though, anime just means anime style. See for example the common term, anime profile picture. It's like the word meme, or irony, or begging the question.
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by rjh29 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @09:40AM (#36226679)
My Japanese friend said "アニメのQRコード?" when I sent them this link, so I think that usage works in both languages.
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by junon on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @05:47AM (#36224812)
> hentai is only for porn and also won’t be understood in Japanese

Can you expand on this? Why not?

Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by bald42 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @09:10AM (#36226348)
AFAIK it is just the literally word for "pervert"
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by fennecfoxy on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @09:13AM (#36226388)
I'm guessing bc "hentai" is only "pervet/weirdo/weird person", "ero" or "ero anime" is used for that in Japan, although I'm almost certain if you walk into a shop that sells it, and refer to it as "hentai" they'll know what you mean.
Re:Redditor creates working anime QR codes using Stable Diff... by rjh29 on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @09:41AM (#36226688)
I don't think they would. You'd need to use エロ本/マンガ/同人誌 or アダルトマンガ.