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Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by paradoxyl on Friday June 02, 2023 @08:31AM (#36164212)
As long as old.reddit.com still exists for desktop, the site is semi-usable, although the insane moderation policies and narrow ideology makes the site basically useless except for niche reddits. Though I have gone from a daily user years back to maybe once a month. It's that bad.

On mobile, I can still read direct links to reddit posts that crop up on HN using Firefox for Android. Can't say same for the Twitter, which just says, "You need to enable javascript." Well, I won't.

Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by ransom1538 on Friday June 02, 2023 @08:41AM (#36164303)
This post seriously changed my life. I had no idea old was working. Thanks.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by esperent on Friday June 02, 2023 @08:44AM (#36164333)
There's also teddit.net
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by reddtastic on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:10AM (#36164583)
And https://reddtastic.com (NSFW!). You can browse any subreddit with it (use the search) and Reddit’s front page https://reddtastic.com/r/
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by jonatron on Friday June 02, 2023 @08:47AM (#36164353)
The Old Reddit Redirect browser extension is good because old links to new a lot.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by executive on Friday June 02, 2023 @08:47AM (#36164359)
Wait till you discover teddit.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by kevviiinn on Friday June 02, 2023 @08:51AM (#36164406)
Its always slow loafing for me, old loads way faster
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by astronads on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:06AM (#36164538)
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by kevviiinn on Friday June 02, 2023 @04:27PM (#36170305)
Nice and quick, thank you! I was using teddit.net
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by pixelpoet on Friday June 02, 2023 @08:54AM (#36164434)
Be warned, either new reddit or the mobile apps (not sure which) deliberately insert extraneous slashes or underscores into links, so many links are broken when viewing on old reddit / need manual editing.

I'm pretty sure they're going to kill off old reddit, which will 100% certainly mark the end of my 15 years there.

Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by Vuska on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:13AM (#36164598)
New and old reddit use different markdown rendering engines. New reddit is able to handle the slashes introduced by the new reddit WYSIWYG editor, it also supports fenced code blocks.

Old reddit supports neither resulting in broken links and broken code blocks.

Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by RGamma on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:28AM (#36164771)
For now. They disabled i.reddit some months ago (was better on mobile)
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by atyppo on Friday June 02, 2023 @08:52AM (#36164412)
Reddit conveniently unchecks the “redirect me to old Reddit” button every ~6 months. Quite annoying. I’ve been using Reddit for ~8-9 years and it’s gotten palpably worse. I knew it was dying the first time I saw an emoji on there. Seems they want to go the way Digg did.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by kfoley on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:01AM (#36164499)
There are extensions that will automatically redirect you. I use this one [0] for Firefox and haven't had any issues.

[0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re...

Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by atyppo on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:12AM (#36164594)
Interesting. I don’t think it’s a big enough annoyance for me to install yet another extension. Moreover, since I use old Reddit on my phone, I’d still have to change it back.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by vehemenz on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:38AM (#36164888)
For things like this a userscript is better solution than a full-on extension. It is definitely worth it though, especially for mobile.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by chapium on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:21AM (#36164697)
This might be your browser settings because this never happens for me.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by lelanthran on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:19AM (#36164674)
I notice it only do that when I browse on the phone sometimes.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by dom96 on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:01AM (#36164497)
Strange. I never had that happen. Are you logged in to Reddit?
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by atyppo on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:11AM (#36164587)
Yes. It’s in the preferences section only when you’re logged in. I notice it as I use multiple accounts somewhat sporadically and it seems like when I log into one after a while it’s almost always back on new Reddit. I’m not alone in complaining about this - plenty of threads on Reddit mentioning this.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by rchaud on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:04AM (#36164519)
On the contrary, Reddit is one of the most useful sites out there. With Google search nearing total uselessness for local information, using "site:reddit.com" is almost obligatory.

None of the real value of Reddit is coming from the parts of it that resemble Twitter or 4Chan.

Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by josephg on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:28AM (#36164768)
On mobile you can’t read reddit comment threads unless you install their official app. I hate that Google surfaces reddit threads since the site itself often doesn’t contain the information indexed by the search.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by generalspecific on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:32AM (#36164814)
That's not true, for me at least. I use mobile browser reddit and can see comment threads just fine.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by ghusto on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:33AM (#36164832)
Firefox > Menu > Desktop Site
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by rchaud on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:53AM (#36165088)
Check the settings of your Reddit client app. I set mine to open links from reddit.com and old.reddit.com. So when I click on a search result, it pulls up the page in the app.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by josephg on Friday June 02, 2023 @08:32PM (#36172539)
Oh great - I didn't realise Apollo could open reddit links on mobile! Fantastic - for the remaining days while apollo works at all. Sigh.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by jghn on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:11AM (#36164590)
Count me as another person who frequently adds site:reddit.com to my google searches. I realize there's a lot of astroturfing that goes on there, but it's still useful when I want to get a pulse from real people.

Also count me as another person who abhors the "new" UI. Every once in a while I get bounced out of the old UI and I don't know how people do it. The old UI isn't my perfect UI but it's darn near close to it.

Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by waboremo on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:57AM (#36165151)
Astroturfing is the least of the problems; most threads are filled with fake experts (of a very specific demographic - usually very young, american, male, etc) projecting.

This is fine if you consciously remember this while browsing, but when you start to believe that you can get a pulse from "real people" on Reddit, you've already lost the game. Remember: to even post a comment on Reddit already puts you in a niche group of people who use Reddit.

This becomes self-reinforcing as well, everyone else will feel alienated even if they do get over the hurdle of commenting, while those who fit the aforementioned mold will feel at home. Can't get much of a pulse, unless you specifically want to know what a very certain demographic feels once you filter out all the fanboyism and astroturfing.

Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by rchaud on Friday June 02, 2023 @10:56AM (#36165976)
It's a good thing we don't have any of this foolishness on Hacker News! /s
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by spacemadness on Friday June 02, 2023 @11:19AM (#36166334)
We have plenty of diversity here. We have young, American, and male folks for instance. Even web developers if you need more diversity than that.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by waboremo on Friday June 02, 2023 @01:36PM (#36168244)
Yes, HN also shares those problems. The upside is I don't see many people proclaiming to add HN to their google searches to find the pulse or whatever it may be, on the contrary it seems many come here just to debate.

Which is the bigger problem, someone coming to a niche place to debate, or someone who believes adding reddit to their google searches is going to provide them with better insight? I'd say the latter: they aren't conscious of the BS being pushed onto them.

Also kind of funny your comment is an exact demonstration of what I mean, that self-reinforcing style of "comedy" coupled with a nonsensical assumption.

Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by NotYourLawyer on Friday June 02, 2023 @10:38AM (#36165706)
Redditors are full of shit. So often, I’ll see a question where I actually know the answer, and the most popular responses are dead wrong.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by thx-2718 on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:16AM (#36164637)
I would posit 'was' one of the most useful sites.

Like OP said there's certainly niche subreddits.

What grew Reddit for me was the informed comments that were generally related to the discussion and often brought more light to a topic than the posted article.

With voices leaving Reddit the point or appeal of it is gone. For me at least.

Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by rchaud on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:57AM (#36165140)
I've been on Reddit for over 10 years. It's a search engine for me now, I've simply aged out of most of the discussions on there. I'm fine with that, because it's still useful for search queries like "Things to do in [city_name]".
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by MSFT_Edging on Friday June 02, 2023 @10:12AM (#36165348)
Its sorta funny, when I'm looking for opinions on a new tech stack or a language comparison, I add the "hackernews" at the end of my query.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by freediver on Friday June 02, 2023 @10:46AM (#36165818)
> With Google search nearing total uselessness for local information, using "site:reddit.com" is almost obligatory.

Only if you use Google to search! ;)

Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by Pxtl on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:06AM (#36164545)
> insane moderation policies and narrow ideology

What, did you prefer the site in the days of the Chimpire? Jailbait? Reddit's history has been the perfect case-study in the downsides of a libertarian approach to moderation. They've come to where they are now because every other approach resulted in horrifying racism, sexual exploitation, disinformation, and abuse.

Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by justaman on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:10AM (#36164578)
The moderators of major subreddits are extremely authoritarian. There must be a middle ground between free-for-all and thought police.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by dageshi on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:27AM (#36164764)
I imagine that requires a level of effort that volunteer mods just don't have the time or inclination for.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by ghusto on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:35AM (#36164856)
Then why are they mods? They literally volunteered to do that exact thing.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by dageshi on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:44AM (#36164950)
No, they didn't? How stuff is moderated is more or less down to the top mod of the subreddit.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by namelessoracle on Friday June 02, 2023 @10:23AM (#36165474)
Many of the moderators get paid. Just not by reddit.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by giraffe_lady on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:46AM (#36164979)
Just some racism as long as you don't say the bad words, and light thought policing? It sounds like you want the HN mod policy, which makes sense bc that's where we are. Other sites can have different approaches though.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by scrollaway on Friday June 02, 2023 @11:02AM (#36166087)
This isn’t the GP’s point; you’re being unfair to them and not reading their comment in good faith (which ironically is against the HN rules here).

I had a topic about the speed of light on askscience get deleted because the mods weren’t in the right mood that day. There is indeed a middle ground and we aren’t there.

Reddit’s model doesn’t work with what they want to do with the site. And things that worked when it had 1M, 10M users no longer do.

Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by peruvian on Friday June 02, 2023 @11:07AM (#36166170)
This sounds like mods in any forum, except maybe HN. It's not a reddit problem.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by Pxtl on Friday June 02, 2023 @02:24PM (#36168880)
HN has very opinionated mods, it's just that what they're opinionated about is primarily a matter of tone rather than a matter of content. I mean it's their site, I might disagree but it's their site.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by tapoxi on Friday June 02, 2023 @11:11AM (#36166226)
They're arguably popular because of the moderation, not in spite of it. You're free to follow whatever subreddit you'd like or create your own, which is the benefit of Reddit as a platform.

I do wish there was much more transparency around "power-moderators" though.

Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by waboremo on Friday June 02, 2023 @10:00AM (#36165187)
Their current libertarian approach to moderation is exactly the reason why I would label it as insane moderation policies.
Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by rhdunn on Friday June 02, 2023 @09:10AM (#36164580)
My biggest gripe with the Reddit UI is having to continually click expand to see nested/additional comments. It makes it difficult to read comments on a topic. I much prefer the HN approach of open by default with a collapse/expand button.

It used to be that clicking outside the central border of comments would navigate you back to the subreddit, but it looks like they have fixed that.

Re:Reddit Is Killing 3rd-Party Apps, the Best Way to Read th... by wfh on Friday June 02, 2023 @10:59AM (#36166046)
Remains one of my proudest contributions to Chromium https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/25...