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Re:Why do recipe writers lie and lie about how long it takes... by jonstewart on Monday May 22, 2023 @10:28PM (#36039095)
You can conceivably get a Maillard reaction with toasting some spices (e.g. cumin seed) where you wouldn’t just by throwing them in a stew. But I agree with your overall point. The 1-2 tbsp olive oil is -everywhere-. Also, better to use canola oil for browning meat.
Re:Why do recipe writers lie and lie about how long it takes... by notatoad on Monday May 22, 2023 @10:43PM (#36039174)
1-2 tbsp of oil is enough to improve the thermal conductivity between the pan and the meat. you're not cooking the meat in that oil. then the meat starts releasing it's own oil (and water) and continues the process without needing additional oil.

if you don't put in a bit of oil, then you're searing one side in a dry pan, and the second side in an oiled pan. and if you're only putting a bit of oil in and it's all in contact with the meat there's really no reason to worry about smoke point, use whatever oil is handy.

Re:Why do recipe writers lie and lie about how long it takes... by treeman79 on Monday May 22, 2023 @10:34PM (#36039126)
Canola is more likely to cause inflammation. Olive oil and coconut oil are much better from that stand point.
Re:Why do recipe writers lie and lie about how long it takes... by explaininjs on Monday May 22, 2023 @10:41PM (#36039167)
Placebo effect is more likely to cause inflammation than anything. Ignorance is, scientifically, bliss.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-021-01365-x

Re:Why do recipe writers lie and lie about how long it takes... by misja111 on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @03:30AM (#36041092)
Olive oil is not the best choice for browning meat, because its burning point is too low. Once it burns, it will disintegrate into bitter byproducts, some of which are carcinogenic.

Canola oil has a high burning point so is a better choice, but if you really want to avoid it, sunflower oil is a good choice as well.

Re:Why do recipe writers lie and lie about how long it takes... by bearmode on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @05:46AM (#36041995)
Light/refined olive oil has a smoke point of up to 470°F. You can sear meat anywhere between 400°F and 500°F.

There is absolutely no reason you can't sear meat with olive oil. You just have to use the light/refined stuff, and not the virgin/extra virgin (which have smoke points closer to 410°F.

Worth noting that canola oil, in the best case scenario, has a smoke point of 450°F.

Re:Why do recipe writers lie and lie about how long it takes... by misja111 on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @07:29AM (#36042789)
I never said it was not possible to sear meat with olive oil. It is certainly possible, but you have to be more careful not to overheat your oil.

> Light/refined olive oil has a smoke point of up to 470°F.

Where did you get that number? Any source I found gives olive oil a burning point of at most 410F. E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Smoke_point_of_cookin...

Re:Why do recipe writers lie and lie about how long it takes... by bearmode on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @08:04AM (#36043118)
Recheck the link you provided, look for refined olive oil. It's just the virgin olive oils that have the lower smoke points.

Also seriouseats puts it at 465°F https://www.seriouseats.com/cooking-fats-101-whats-a-smoke-p...

Re:Why do recipe writers lie and lie about how long it takes... by astrange on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @03:35AM (#36041132)
If you're worried about omega-6:3 ratios then canola oil is better than every other vegetable oil, including olive oil.

Also see https://www.the-nutrivore.com/post/a-comprehensive-rebuttal-...

Re:Why do recipe writers lie and lie about how long it takes... by wenc on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @03:15AM (#36040971)
Toasting spices can flavor your oil, but the Mailard reaction really only happens when amino acids react with reducing sugars, so nothing to do with spices at all.
Re:Why do recipe writers lie and lie about how long it takes... by dagw on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @05:50AM (#36042012)
Olive oil is fine for browning as long as it isn't extra virgin olive oil. Refined olive oil can actually have a higher smoke pointe than rapeseed/canola oil.