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Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by dudul on Monday May 22, 2023 @05:50PM (#36037159)
Some extremists want to ban books, other want to ban words and force made up words on others. Some want to stop conversations about some topics, others want to impose conversations to people who don't care.

It's all about extremists, it's even all about "religion", even from the ones who call themselves anti-religion.

Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by ok_dad on Monday May 22, 2023 @05:54PM (#36037198)
Don't "both sides" this one: in this case one "side" wants to eliminate certain people from existence, and another "side" wants to be able to live in peace without being judged and harmed.
Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by newZWhoDis on Monday May 22, 2023 @06:43PM (#36037630)
We’re quickly escaping “what HN is for” territory so I expect warnings from dang.

That said, don’t pretend the side you’re referencing is “peaceful”. It is extremely militant. They explicitly seek out moderator and other positions of power to enforce their world views via censorship.

I’ve seen the discord groups where they openly discuss doing this. They pride themselves on silencing others who they deem have violated their orthodoxy.

There isn’t a fridge gaming community on the internet that is safe from you and it is incredibly frustrating. Resistance is inevitable.

Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by yoyohello13 on Monday May 22, 2023 @07:11PM (#36037880)
> That said, don’t pretend the side you’re referencing is “peaceful”. It is extremely militant. They explicitly seek out moderator and other positions of power to enforce their world views via censorship.

Frankly, the LGTBQ community are fighting for survival. If the far right gets what they want, these people will not be able to live in safety. So maybe being militant is reasonable when their lives are being threatened.

Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by newZWhoDis on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @01:03AM (#36040048)
Sounds like “the ends justify the means” to me.

Well, the “ends” have consequences. I find it funny that the side so hellbent on calling everyone else “fascist” is the first to employ the definition of fascism (merger of state and corporate power) to enforce censorship on others.

If you’re (other) and just want to be left alone then you better start vocally separating yourself from the mainstream “community” and their jackboot tactics now, because the backlash is coming (due to said tactics) and it’s going to overspray unless mitigated now.

Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by yarg on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @01:12AM (#36040104)
I got perma-banned from reddit for hate-speech.

I simply argued that trans-activists argue in bad faith and regularly blur the lines on the definition of transphobic.

Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by cimov on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @03:23AM (#36041038)
Same here - my permaban was for pointing out, with evidence, that male athlete Caster Semenya is male. This was in r/ChangeMyView, of all places, on a discussion about male participation in female sports.

Rather frustrating to be banned site-wide simply for citing a fact.

Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by yarg on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @01:34AM (#36040266)
We live in a world where an obese man won the Miss America pageant, and everyone is expected to pretend he's a healthy woman, because otherwise they're just hateful bigots.

The left will tell you (and demand that you accept) that that's somehow a healthy human being.

And to the extent that we accept it, it is a demand to reject fertility as an indicator for human health.

By all means eat yourself into a sphere, neuter yourself with sex hormones, mutilate your genitals - live your best life, but understand that if we all behaved that way the species would go extinct.

And I do not owe it to anyone to pretend otherwise.

Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by autoexec on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @05:50AM (#36042010)
> an obese man won the Miss America pageant

Just for clarity on this point: If you meant Brían Nguyen, it was 'a' Miss America pageant and not 'the' Miss America pageant. The title wasn't "Miss America", it was "Miss Greater Derry"

Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by yarg on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @05:52AM (#36042021)
Thanks for the correction (that was who I meant).
Re:Leaked government document shows Spain wants to ban end-t... by thomastjeffery on Monday May 22, 2023 @06:24PM (#36037461)
All words are made up. Most of them have meaning. Some of them are contextually misleading, and some are contextually assaulting.

For example, shouting the words, "Fuck God" in the middle of church would be considered an assault on the congregation.

Calling a non-binary person a "Man" would be considered an assault on that person.

Many of us secularists and atheists would very much like to leave the shadow of religious organizations. We can't do so without openly confronting the reality of those religious organizations and their power over our lives.

For that confrontation, we use words.