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Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by tenpies on Saturday May 20, 2023 @01:54PM (#36014046)
> The US is the most punitive major country in the world

For this statement to hold, it requires the most absurd definition of "punitive" imaginable.

There are countries where talking negatively about the wrong people is grounds for execution.

There are countries where theft is punished by amputation of a limb.

There are countries where not flushing a public toilet that you used, is a punishable offense.

All of these countries are much more punitive, and almost all of them have much less crime than the United States.

Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by chmod775 on Saturday May 20, 2023 @09:16PM (#36017113)
The US has the fifth highest per capita prison population in the world.

The four countries with a higher per capita population are: El Salvador, Rwanda, Turkmenistan, and Cuba. (Omitting American Samoa, because that's a US territory).

None of those are major countries, so the statement "The US is the most punitive major country in the world" absolutely holds water.

If you want an idea of how crazy high incarceration rates are in the states, just compare the prison population per 100,000 inhabitants with its neighbors:

    Canada - 85
    Mexico - 174
    USA    - 505
On a side note I wonder how many people would rather lose a limb than spend a decade in US prison.
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by refurb on Saturday May 20, 2023 @11:08PM (#36017689)
A big reason for that is that "prison population" is defined differently by different countries.

China's prison population is lower, but they have "administrative detention" which isn't included.

How to lie with statistics.

Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by csomar on Saturday May 20, 2023 @09:27PM (#36017155)
That's because you are buying into western propaganda. These countries operate on some kind of "hype" of law. The odds that you'll go to jail in Singapore for committing a "punishable" offense is really low. I was surprised how lax Singapore is given its reputation. It seems that they are holding the status quo by that reputation rather than the enforcement of it.

This is the same for many other countries but not the case for the US. Also your first two examples applies to really small list of countries (Iran and S.A.) and their current governments are the disgrace of the world and are not really an example to take (like going too extreme and something the US shouldn't "I guess" be compared too).

Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by racnid on Saturday May 20, 2023 @10:40PM (#36017548)
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says by account42 on Monday May 22, 2023 @09:00AM (#36030886)
That's on him, shouldn't have been lower class.