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Re:Protocol Wars by greyface- on Thursday May 11, 2023 @05:04AM (#35899634)
TCP becomes unusable under interplanetary latencies; leaving the planet will force us to transition off of it.
Re:Protocol Wars by talideon on Thursday May 11, 2023 @06:04AM (#35900054)
Nah. The main impetus to achieve FTL communication will be because it'll be easier than shifting people off of TCP.
Re:Protocol Wars by aardvark179 on Thursday May 11, 2023 @08:39AM (#35901210)
It’s all fun and games until you get an ACK before you sent the SYN.
Re:Protocol Wars by pif on Thursday May 11, 2023 @08:58AM (#35901387)
That's a solved problem, just ask the thiotimoline research group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiotimoline

Re:Protocol Wars by dredmorbius on Friday May 12, 2023 @06:30AM (#35914299)
Tardis Control Protocol.
Re:Protocol Wars by KptMarchewa on Thursday May 11, 2023 @06:05AM (#35900063)
I don't think volume of data average user will want to send to Mars over next 100 years will be a important factor enough. I envision Mars comms using some kind of relay service, to which you'd communicate using TCP
Re:Protocol Wars by api on Thursday May 11, 2023 @07:49AM (#35900829)
Earth-Mars will be a store and forward network not unlike the old UUCP or BBS networks like FidoNet. You will send blobs of data via something that probably looks like a replicated S3 bucket and get notified when replication of an object has occurred.

IP is usable to the Moon but a lot of protocols would need latency constants adjusted and very large packets would be desirable. Store and forward with custom replication protocols might still be more efficient for large volumes of data.

Re:Protocol Wars by arpa on Thursday May 11, 2023 @07:03AM (#35900473)
i'm not sure about that statement. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
Re:Protocol Wars by chpatrick on Thursday May 11, 2023 @07:49AM (#35900831)
That's IP (and ICMP for ping), not TCP.
Re:Protocol Wars by arpa on Friday May 12, 2023 @03:23PM (#35921010)
Yep yep yep, Long Fat Pipe problems, right.
Re:Protocol Wars by pif on Thursday May 11, 2023 @09:00AM (#35901411)
More likely, we will end up with 15 competing standard.

https://xkcd.com/927/

Re:Protocol Wars by grishka on Thursday May 11, 2023 @03:35PM (#35907306)
That assumes that the speed of light is an insurmountable speed limit. We can't be 100% sure of that.

But even if it is, TCP can be used with any latency if you configure the timeouts accordingly and maintain a large enough send buffer to allow retransmissions.