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Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by cma on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @11:40AM (#35789281)
Why do they do this, Samsung does the same tiny length limit for Secure Folder. Is it law enforcement requested?
Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by bflesch on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @11:56AM (#35789562)
yes
Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by copper-float on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @12:25PM (#35790028)
Source? That would be very shocking.
Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by wyager on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @12:51PM (#35790479)
Would it? Apple crippled iCloud image encryption for years at the request of federal LEAs.
Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by _georgesim_ on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @01:59PM (#35791654)
Can you share a source for this please? Not finding anything useful.
Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by asldkfjaslkdj on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @02:40PM (#35792241)
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=apple+icloud+fbi&ia=web

you all created a 10 message deep thread for something that not only is common knowledge, but a quick search of the only 3 keywords involved will return articles by BBC, forbes, tech venues, etc.

sigh.

Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by wyager on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @02:37PM (#35792209)
I have no idea if anyone has covered it. It's industry knowledge. Source: me

I figured it would be generally known at this point, especially with the whole perceptual hash debacle (intended to satisfy LEAs despite the plan to finally enable image encryption). I'm not sure what the internal politics looked like after the perceptual hash snitch got axed - my friends who would know quit Apple by then.

Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by Spooky23 on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @12:54PM (#35790556)
Why? The FBI pitched a fit over access to a shooter’s phone in the press a few years ago, then stopped.

Now, you have a multiple products on the market that can crack passcodes by utilizing flaws that allow you to brute force PINs, which are by default 6 digit numbers. (Despite most guidance demanding 8)

Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by rasz on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @06:42PM (#35795178)
Cellebrite UFED Cellphone Forensic Extraction Device Teardown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LLGGCXH9MQ

UFED, get it? its right in the name :] Video has little demonstration with older phones, one click bypass for all passcodes.

Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by halJordan on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @04:59PM (#35794121)
Despite the "hurr, durr; I'm cynical" responses, you're not insane, it would in fact be shocking.
Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by rasz on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @06:55PM (#35795276)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_th...

>Later provision was added to allow export of 56-bit encryption if the exporter promised to add "key recovery" backdoors by the end of 1998.

First SSL crippled to 40-bit RC2/RC4

First 802.11 wireless protocol WEP "64" key length shortened to 40 bits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A5/1 vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A5/2

>to allow the British secret service to eavesdrop more easily. The British proposed a key length of 48 bits, while the West Germans wanted stronger encryption to protect against East German spying, so the compromise became a key length of 54 bits

>Documents leaked by Edward Snowden in 2013 state that the NSA "can process encrypted A5/1"

Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by halJordan on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @05:02PM (#35794166)
It's because tpms are small and have small storage. The outrageous "its a secret cabal" voices are a prime example of what people cook up when faced with something they cant explain due to ignorance but feel the need to have an answer. Its as outrageous as a Republican saying "Q did it."
Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @05:24PM (#35794426)
Wondering if something was requested by law enforcement isn't implying a cabal, chill.

Also a couple kilobytes of flash costs basically nothing. And you could hash keys over a certain length, which is much better than having such a short limit on a human-typed string.

Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by bootsmann on Wednesday May 03, 2023 @02:55AM (#35798978)
A couple of kilobytes of flash also doesn't come with the protections the tpm offers (or at least is supposed to offer, considering the article in the OP)
Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by salawat on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @06:02PM (#35794838)
If you'd like to provide schemata, open standards and source code for them, then don't keep the class waiting.

Don't/can't? Then you're a fool trusting someone else to do something you yourself cannot inspect. Then again, most people seem to be oddly fine with that. I am not of that number.

Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by intelVISA on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @06:16PM (#35794964)
as a 1337 pwn3r the TPMs are fine

source: just trust me bro

Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by jasonjayr on Tuesday May 02, 2023 @10:05PM (#35796850)
Sure they are small little embedded chips, supposedly physically hardened from tampering.

but argon2($string_of_any_length) should produce a fixed-length byte string, no?

Re:AMD's Firmware TPMs Vulnerable to Hardware Attacks, Defea... by LawTalkingGuy on Wednesday May 03, 2023 @07:24PM (#35809207)
And if they aren't using such a password library, what other errors are likely?

Timing attack on the character of the pw which failed?