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Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by JumpCrisscross on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:36AM (#35770357)
If you’re looking for a list, the eleven regional lenders Moody’s downgraded last week are good place start [1]. Given we have de facto uncapped the FDIC’s insurance limit, I’m not sure it’s a good place to stew unless out of personal interest.

[1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/moodys-downgrades-11-regional-b...

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by Dalewyn on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:48AM (#35770435)
>Given we have de facto uncapped the FDIC’s insurance limit,

It was never capped in any hard manner, remember the fine print is "up to at least" $250,000.00.

The limit can be as high as the FDIC's feeling that particular day, the only thing set in stone is the floor of $250,000.00.

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by JumpCrisscross on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:50AM (#35770447)
> limit can be as high as the FDIC's feeling that particular day

Technically, the FDIC has to find the failure to be systemically important. Legally, nobody defined what that process should be, so you are in practice correct.

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by zamnos on Monday May 01, 2023 @04:57AM (#35770492)
In this case

> All depositors of First Republic Bank will become depositors of JPMorgan Chase Bank, National Association, and will have full access to all of their deposits.

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by pjc50 on Monday May 01, 2023 @05:03AM (#35770516)
Indeed - the government isn't taking responsibility, they've leaned on the private sector to sort this out among themselves.

(Matt Levine et al have argued that the SV VC community should have taken over more, or indeed any, of the rescue role, since they were responsible for overweighting SVB and then bankrunning it. But that hasn't happened)

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by JumpCrisscross on Monday May 01, 2023 @05:09AM (#35770547)
> the government isn't taking responsibility

Ish. The loss-sharing transaction does involve the FDIC taking risk [1]. They claim they will settle up actual losses with special assessments on their members. And there may be no losses at all. But there is definitely risk being assumed by the FDIC, an entity backed by the full faith and credit of the United States.

It also looks like the FDIC is providing JPMorgan with a $50bn term loan [2]. (Shout out to snake_doc [3].)

[1] https://www.fdic.gov/resources/resolutions/bank-failures/fai...

[2] https://www.jpmorganchase.com/ir/news/2023/jpmc-acquires-sub...

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35770684

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by aero-glide2 on Monday May 01, 2023 @06:34AM (#35770993)
"The FDIC is not supported by public funds; member banks' insurance dues are its primary source of funding."
Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by ceejayoz on Monday May 01, 2023 @07:39AM (#35771435)
The FDIC is not normally supported by public funds.

If it ran out of money, it's nearly certain the government would step in to cover the shortfall.

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by 0zemp2c on Monday May 01, 2023 @06:14AM (#35770890)
> The limit can be as high as the FDIC's feeling that particular day, the only thing set in stone is the floor of $250,000.00.

as long as the payout doesn't exceed the FDIC's funds

its a $100 billion fund insuring $14 trillion in deposits...

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by JumpCrisscross on Monday May 01, 2023 @06:21AM (#35770931)
> its a $100 billion fund insuring $14 trillion in deposits

Backed by the full faith and credit of the United States. (As well as what looks like the Fed [1].)

[1] https://bpi.com/the-mysterious-footnote-7-to-whom-and-on-wha...

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by T-A on Monday May 01, 2023 @07:29AM (#35771364)
Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by ceejayoz on Monday May 01, 2023 @07:38AM (#35771429)
It's historically worth quite a bit.
Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by T-A on Monday May 01, 2023 @08:23AM (#35771806)
Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by Kye on Monday May 01, 2023 @08:57AM (#35772152)
See that slide down after most people got checks and businesses got PPP loans they didn't have to pay back when the pandemic was at its worst? That's investment paying off. And that's with supply issues that continue to this day.

Watch that space for when supply catches up and we start figuring out better pandemic management after the next killer wave. The road ahead is bumpy, but I see wise investments paying off as long as some idiot doesn't get into power and start cutting taxes for people who don't need them again.

The people who keep loaning money to the government at least don't seem worried because they keep doing it.

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by Kye on Monday May 01, 2023 @08:40AM (#35771986)
You know those analogies that compare a normal person's charity to a rich person's charity? So a billionaire giving $1m is like me giving someone a 100% tip on a $10 meal.

$4T in debt for the US is bearable. Between a $23T GDP and being constitutionally obligated to pay those debts as they come due, it's not really an issue. There's probably a lot of fraud in government programs, but that money still gets spent in the economy that financed the loan.

The issue is deficits. Those mainly go up in times of crisis, but end up bolstering the nation's ability to pay, so it's not all bad. I have near complete contempt for what passes for political parties in the US but, historically speaking, the way to go if you care about reducing the debt is Democrats. They consistently wipe out the deficit and set us on a path to paying it down just in time for Republicans to take over and flip it back to red with tax cuts. Democrats might raise the debt, but it's usually to deal with a crisis.

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by DJBunnies on Monday May 01, 2023 @07:23AM (#35771324)
Anyone have an alt source for this
Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by not_your_vase on Monday May 01, 2023 @08:42AM (#35772006)
https://archive.is/NLiV0

There is a search feature on archive.is, which so far hasn't failed me when I looked for links on these somewhat popular paywalled sites.

Re:JPMorgan Chase Bank Assumes All the Deposits of First Rep... by DJBunnies on Monday May 01, 2023 @09:06AM (#35772260)
Thanks, I could only remember outline.