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Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by warkdarrior on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:05PM (#35736406)
How does any of that software engineering wankery bring any business value?
Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by Izikiel43 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:12PM (#35736447)
Well, if you watched the video you would know. Since they are removing whole attack surfaces, which means reduced exploits, which means more security, which at windows scale means millions of dollars saved in prevented security issues for companies across the world.
Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by 1letterunixname on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:17PM (#35736470)
The way Microsoft wrote code for 40 years was an attack surface. The absurdity and fragility of DCOM and ActiveX without meaningful security or development rigor.
Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by Izikiel43 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:27PM (#35736544)
Ok? What's the point? Do you want them to invent a time machine and not do that? Is it a bad idea to fix the issues?
Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by jen20 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:35PM (#35736583)
No, I want them to write better stuff going forward, which this seems to be.
Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by 1letterunixname on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:59PM (#35736718)
It's like them finally admitting the emperor's new clothes is the king is naked.

Frankly, I don't care because Microsoft's ethos is one of hostility, neglect, and irresponsibility.

Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by afavour on Thursday April 27, 2023 @11:07PM (#35737062)
“Microsoft has a history of hostile neglect!”

[MS moves to responsibly maintain their codebase and patch previously overlooked vulnerabilities]

“Ugh why are they wasting all this tiiiime”

Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by 1letterunixname on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:00PM (#35736730)
Closing the barn door after the cows left. Too little, too late.
Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by bee_rider on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:34PM (#35736917)
Yesterday would be better, but there’ll never be a better day than today.
Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by Loocid on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:29PM (#35736886)
How is it too late when they are continuously producing new products?
Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by rektide on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:26PM (#35736534)
I actually kind of agree with you, but my god man. Nothing may change today except the ability to innovate forward without living in fear of breaking shit. This is huge.

We are on a site called hacker news. Fuck your ignorant business value. The business view has always been bad at being a hacker & your degradation is just more heaped abuse from the know-nots. Have some decorum, so we smart knowing shit hackers can bother to put up with you presence without being in pain. Behave.

Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by selcuka on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:35PM (#35736585)
> I actually kind of agree with you [...]

Then it escalated really quickly.

Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by holografix on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:13PM (#35736452)
“…these kinds of bugs were at the heart of about 70 percent of the CVE-listed security vulnerabilities patched by the Windows maker in its own products since 2006.”

Associate a $ number to the average CVE then associate a reduction in total amount of CVEs.

Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by 1letterunixname on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:15PM (#35736464)
On its own, absolutely none, which is true of everything that's not in service of a business solution. In general, how often are engineers held accountable for delivering direct business value anywhere rather than being subject to arbitrary favoritism performance ratings?
Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by Klonoar on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:07PM (#35736420)
…the roles in question at Microsoft are literal business value since that’s their jobs.

Chill out and read the article.

Re:Microsoft is busy rewriting core Windows library code in ... by woodruffw on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:49PM (#35736666)
Microsoft spends a lot of money on software security, particularly on a large body of software written by them in unsafe programming languages; spending less money is good business.

Microsoft makes a great deal of money selling software to companies and governments that are increasingly convinced that memory safe software is in their best interests; maintaining those business ties is also worth a great deal of money.