I’m especially easily irritated by this kind of thing and I cannot recall a single example of that in iOS. are you using your device for an unusual case?

Pretty much after every system update I get nagged for using iCloud, apple wallet, the defaults redirects you randomly to apple music when you are trying to play your own music, etc. Perhaps you have given up to all those demands and you don't see them. Otherwise you can't really miss them. To the point that I am deferring system updates as long as I can.

Apple Wallet is free, and does it use modal dialogue boxes anyway?

iCloud I can’t really argue

haven’t had an Apple Music redirect for years

is that constant modal dialogues for paid services? not really

You think Apple wallet is a charity? They get a cut on every transaction. Processing fees are charged to the merchant.

That’s Apple Pay, not the wallet app. The wallet app just shows a collection of cards supplied by the system and apps.

and by implication using your camera or your torch for free is a charity. phones have features my friend. the speakers on your PC are not a “charity”

My beef is that something about taking my Samsung Bluetooth earphones out of my ears launches Apple's Music/iTunes app, and only that, and after a cursory search, this apparently can't be turned off. Aside from the annoyance itself, pushing a particular app/service is also not what I want an OS to do.

This drives me crazy ever single day.

Taking them out does that? That makes no sense.

That sounds more like a bug or oversight than a dark pattern.

It's a bit of both. The intention is probably to start the app when you "plug in" earphones. But something about putting the Galaxy Buds back into their charging case, or sometimes just taking them out, causes a state change (reconnect?) that triggers it.

The dark pattern is to start the Music app.

On my Apple Watch 3, when on a run, I would look at my watch for heart rate and pace, but Apple would always show Music first, even though i don’t listen to music when running.

Bought a Garmin watch immediately after that.

This hasn't happened to me a few iOS versions ago with the Buds Plus.

Sorry, I realize I didn't make it clear, but I meant Mac OS (on a MBP).

It's a pain in Apple Photos that continually nags you about running out of space or buying more. They also have persistent notification badges for settings if you don't turn on iCloud.

If you are backing your photos up to iCloud and you're running out of space, of course you will get a notification. Just disable Photos sync to iCloud if you rely on another cloud like Google Photos

I cannot even use Google Photos in the same way that I use iCloud.

With iCloud I can set the system up to only retain low-resolution versions and only fetch high-quality when needed.

I can't do that with Google Photos. ANY app that requires me to open a photo opens up with the standard iOS photo viewer which does not allow anything. I can't even write an integration for iOS photos so I can browse my NAS, or Google Photos or DropBox or whatever.

But doesn’t the nagging make sense if you’re already using iCloud sync for Photos (so you’re obviously interested in the functionality) but running out of the free (trial basically) space? The badges are crap, yes.

Sorry about any lecturing.

We should skip the Apple vs Microsoft debate. It has no value.

We all vote with our money.

Cue the Microsoft apologists...

Where and how often? I get a notice every time I update my OS for things I don't care about. But imagining every time I opened my main search interface that I saw an ad... no thanks.

For almost every one of those pop ups, you can click on it, step through the dialog, then cancel the setup and it will clear the badge and not nag you anymore.

I agree it is getting irritating on IOS, but on Windows they’re now using things like alert badges on the battery charging status icon, the security status icon, etc. for stuff like “alerting” that you haven’t signed up for cloud backups and somehow this is an urgent security concern.

> For almost every one of those pop ups, you can click on it, step through the dialog, then cancel the setup and it will clear the badge and not nag you anymore.

Until the next update.

really? I don't remember seeing any ios nags like that. super weird that you'd be seeing them constantly.

I just got a brand new iPhone 14 and didn't see any of this either even when setting it up fresh.

I'm also curious what OP is referring to.