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Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by preseinger on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @01:59PM (#35543954)
what do you call an entity that suppresses conspiracy theories which subvert the public good? i dunno, moral? ethical? the baseline expectation for rational participants in society?
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by kodah on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @02:14PM (#35544213)
Normal? That's not what I was talking about in this specific instance of Twitter though. Maybe you can make your point more clear.
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by lostlogin on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @02:24PM (#35544404)
The parent comment isn’t referring to Twitter surely?
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by kodah on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @03:10PM (#35545104)
I think they were trying to say because Twitter successfully suppressed conspiracy theories in the past that it gives them a pass when the information happened to not be a conspiracy theory. If that was the takeaway, I fully disagree. If you get into the suppression game, even for the right reasons, you deserve whatever comes your way when you're wrong even once. That's how we keep powerful entities honest.
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by preseinger on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @04:19PM (#35546188)
covid misinformation is a conspiracy theory, suppressing idiocy is virtuous

"oh but if you allow a platform to suppress stupid shit then how do you know that they won't suppress other blah blah blah" judgment my bro, it is ok if things are subjective

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by adamrezich on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @04:36PM (#35546448)
it's a good thing that everyone who holds any amount of power is always purely, perfectly virtuous and altruistic in their judgement—if this wasn't the case, that sure would complicate things, wouldn't it?
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by preseinger on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @07:31PM (#35548575)
yeah that is definitely a requisite assumption of my position

for the same reason we don't allow governments to enact laws or provide any kind of justice system, because there is no way to guarantee they will be always perfectly correct

yes sir

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by dang on Friday April 14, 2023 @01:56PM (#35572531)
Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar hell. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by dang on Friday April 14, 2023 @01:56PM (#35572529)
Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar hell. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

We've had to ask you this before.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: it looks like you've been using HN primarily for political and ideological battle. That's not allowed here, regardless of what you're battling for or against. We ban accounts that cross this line (for more explanation see https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...), so please stop doing this.

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by kodah on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @09:51PM (#35549825)
I guess you're just not aware: https://reason.com/2021/06/04/lab-leak-misinformation-media-...

I'm not criticizing them for suppressing conspiracy theories, or even idiocy, I'm criticizing them for getting it wrong. Sure, it's fine if things are subjective, but it's also fine when hell rains down on you for being so seriously wrong.

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by preseinger on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @11:49PM (#35550705)
this is a stupid article centered on a stupid premise, it diminishes everyone who comes in contact with it
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by kodah on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:51AM (#35556366)
I don't think my 13 year old nephew could've stated it any better. Thanks for your enlightening contributions during this thread.
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by preseinger on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:55AM (#35556443)
don't put this on me, you're the one who linked reason.com non-ironically

be better

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by kodah on Thursday April 13, 2023 @11:24AM (#35556890)
I don't know what Reason's history is but you can look up the story at any other news outlet. The facts are the same.

Be better.

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by dang on Friday April 14, 2023 @01:57PM (#35572560)
Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar hell. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

We've had to ask you this before.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by dang on Friday April 14, 2023 @01:57PM (#35572555)
The kind of flamewar comments you posted to this thread will get an account banned on HN, so please don't do that. We want thoughtful, respectful, and above all curious conversation here.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

Edit: I took a look at your recent account history and saw two relevant things: (1) a lot of good comments, and (2) no other cases of flamewar. Thank you! That's great, and should make the current issue easy to avoid in the future.

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by LawTalkingGuy on Thursday April 13, 2023 @12:41PM (#35558217)
> covid misinformation is a conspiracy theory

I've been personally blocked on multiple forums for saying that we don't have enough information to say that there wasn't a lab leak.

I'm not making a leak claim, but stating as an expert that it's malpractice to characterize your assumptions as facts and without a long and detailed audit we could not know what we'd need to know to make a factual statement. No audit of the Wuhan lab had been done so we could not know what happened.

The government pressured old-Twitter to ban people who pointed out this fact.

> suppressing idiocy is virtuous

Are you applying to have your account blocked then? Because what I'm saying is tautological.

> judgment my bro, it is ok if things are subjective

For your opinion, sure. For policy, no. If we can't attempt to objectively show that something is wrong we can't claim to be censoring misinformation.

Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by adastra22 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @04:17AM (#35552487)
Conspiracy theories like (1) you should mask up, or (2) COVID is airborne? Both would have gotten you suspended from Twitter.
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by preseinger on Thursday April 13, 2023 @10:26AM (#35555972)
no they would not have, be better than this
Re:NPR quits Twitter after being falsely labeled as 'state-a... by adastra22 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @01:47PM (#35559270)
Accounts advocating for both positions were suspended back in 2020/2021. It really did happen.