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Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by chatgpt_user on Monday April 10, 2023 @10:47PM (#35520128)
I wrote about this same exact thing (on a throwaway so my other employees don't see this) from the perspective of the employer.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35484643

---- I'm writing on a throwaway account for obvious reasons. I run a mid sized software company that does a mix of software consulting and saas. Quite common these days. I want to share a real story about how chatgpt eliminated a marketing job. I have a full time marketing person who writes content (case studies, blog posts, client testimonials etc) and does SEO optimization for our website. He's not technical, but understands the problem we are solving and knows how to talk to customers.

Writing a case study, blog post or a marketing tweet took a bit of work. I'd brainstorm with him what topics to write about, he'd run some drafts by me and then after 2 - 3 revisions we'd publish it. With chatgpt I'd just write what I wanted in point form and get back a polished product in a few seconds. It gives you exactly what you wanted but puts it across in a way that's much better quality than what what the marketing person could do. Most importantly, none of the key points I wanted to make get lost in translation.

I decided last week to lay off the marketing person (2 months full pay severance) because I did not see the value in paying for a full time marketer when I can do a better/faster job with AI. I think this is the new reality that a lot of sales/marketing jobs will face.

Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by jemmyw on Monday April 10, 2023 @11:02PM (#35520232)
I don't know why you got the downvotes, I guess people decided your story was a lie. Interesting nonetheless.
Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by pytonslange on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @02:37AM (#35521614)
Maybe because he had hired a marketing guy to write his own client testimonials?
Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by docdeek on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @02:50AM (#35521709)
From experience, when working with clients on case studies and testimonials the individual concerned will often talk to the marketing team and then the marketing team will transform their comments into something short and snappy for approval before publishing. Perhaps that’s what is meant by ‘writing testimonials’ in this case?
Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by jemmyw on Wednesday April 12, 2023 @04:24AM (#35536548)
Sure, maybe he does, but if that's so then we should read that and respond. Down voting and flagging such a comment isn't helpful. It's not even an opinion people don't like, it's something that has happened, and, if true that's very relevant.
Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by gaganyaan on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @12:32AM (#35520865)
This is a good thing. One more bullshit job eliminated that only exists to make the numbers go up.

This will be hard, but as a society, we need to examine the entire reasoning behind "jobs" and why "more jobs = more gooder". The entire foundation of that line of thought is fundamentally flawed.

Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by listenallyall on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @01:23AM (#35521170)
If a job makes the "numbers" (by that I assume you mean revenue or profit) go up, then by definition, it's not a bullshit job, it's a productivity enhancer.
Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by Turskarama on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @02:16AM (#35521459)
It depends, you could just be stealing the numbers from elsewhere. One companies gain does not imply increased productivity in society.
Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by listenallyall on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @02:52AM (#35521722)
Companies aren't trying (nor should they) to improve society's productivity, only their own.
Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by Turskarama on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @03:22AM (#35521913)
Yes, well, that doesn't exactly go against my point does it?
Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by wildrhythms on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @10:27AM (#35525647)
'Bullshit jobs' is an indictment of the socioeconomic system that enables such jobs to exist in the first place. It is not an indictment of the individual doing the job; the psychological association between oneself and their bullshit job is at the heart of the analysis. I like this definition:

>"a form of paid employment that is so completely pointless, unnecessary, or pernicious that even the employee cannot justify its existence even though, as part of the conditions of employment, the employee feels obliged to pretend that this is not the case."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs

Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by listenallyall on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @04:31PM (#35531115)
Right, which is why, by definition, if a person's job improves revenue or profit (i.e. "numbers go up") then it isn't "pointless" or "unnecessary," therefore it isn't a bullshit job. Thanks for clearing that up.
Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by albertopv on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @02:02AM (#35521395)
Until that jobs is yours, because not everyone is an AI scientist/developer.

Prepare for social unrest.

Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by oceanplexian on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @09:15AM (#35524676)
Where I live, at lest in a medium-sized town in the US, there's a huge amount of work in hospitality, construction, skilled trades, healthcare, and every other field you can imagine. The only commonality is that none of those careers include "making content" or "social media". It's like at some point during the COVID pandemic people forgot that everyone can't sit at a computer.
Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by seanicus on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @11:18AM (#35526374)
Enjoy your schadenfreude. I legitimately hope it doesn't happen to you!
Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by notfromhere on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @11:55AM (#35526956)
“It’s fine if it happens to someone else”
Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by eleitl on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @12:36PM (#35527559)
Hospitality and healthcare occupations are doing badly in much of the Western World. Construction is highly seasonal, and arguably much of it is currently driven by an investment bubble rather than organic demand which could pop, ending in a long winter. Skilled trades, maybe, but you need a healthy job market so that people can afford these.

While these occupations are safe from AI, for time being, they're not safe per se.

Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by LapsangGuzzler on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @04:54PM (#35531414)
> you need a healthy job market so that people can afford these.

So much this. I was reading recently about how remote white collar work has strongly stimulated trades workers like electricians and plumbers. Once all of the high-paying remote work is gone, who is going to be able to pay for that sort of work outside of doctors?

Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by LapsangGuzzler on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @04:51PM (#35531374)
> there's a huge amount of work in hospitality, construction, skilled trades, healthcare, and every other field you can imagine.

These are mostly bottom-of-the-barrel jobs that can't find and hold on to good people. I worked in hotels back in high school and I wouldn't wish that experience on my worst enemy. Broadly speaking, these industries are hiring a ton right now because they've historically underpaid employees and struggle to find people who are willing to work for poor wages and toxic cultures.

Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by sheperd209 on Thursday April 13, 2023 @11:27AM (#35556936)
Do Software engineers/Developers really feel they are safe here?

Maybe the top dogs who are working on groundbreaking stuff, but as a normal backend/DevOps dude, I am fucking terrified.

Re:It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT by cnelsenmilt on Tuesday April 11, 2023 @01:38PM (#35528419)
Said elsewhere previously[0] but the reason is simple: because the only way we as a society have to distribute a stable supply of food and shelter is for (most) every individual to have a job. "more jobs = more gooder" flows directly from that: "people need food → food requires job → we need jobs".

Changing that has to come before the bullshit jobs are wiped out or there will be an even worse situation.

[0]:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35470255