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Re:Frank founder Charlie Javice arrested, charged with defra... by steveBK123 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @09:56AM (#35468364)
Good.

We have entered the part of the cycle where the frauds & charlatans get their repercussions.

Very 2008-2009esque in that regard.

Re:Frank founder Charlie Javice arrested, charged with defra... by spaceman_2020 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @10:00AM (#35468402)
Not a lot of frauds and charlatans got their repercussions in 2008-09.

I, for one, would like to see all these “financial influencers” get heavily punished. The amount of scams and rugs and market manipulation they all pulled off in 2020-21 was unreal.

Re:Frank founder Charlie Javice arrested, charged with defra... by ceejayoz on Thursday April 06, 2023 @10:04AM (#35468445)
They're working on it; some high-profile ones last month: https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1165477713/lindsay-lohan-jake...
Re:Frank founder Charlie Javice arrested, charged with defra... by fghsqwads on Thursday April 06, 2023 @01:25PM (#35471562)
D-list celebs who promote shit on Instagram without pointing out they're being paid. Somehow, I'm supposed to view this as markedly worse than Tom Brady, Larry David, etc. doing the same thing in a commercial.
Re:Frank founder Charlie Javice arrested, charged with defra... by ceejayoz on Thursday April 06, 2023 @02:16PM (#35472232)
Why would you not see them as markedly different?

Commercials don't require disclosure because everyone knows they're a commercial. The same is not true for influencers' Instagram posts. Sometimes the scripting is ham-handed enough to be obvious, but hardly always.

Re:Frank founder Charlie Javice arrested, charged with defra... by fghsqwads on Thursday April 06, 2023 @02:29PM (#35472409)
The outcome is the same, people buying something they may not have otherwise. Also, the fact that viewers know something is an ad doesn't change the fact that they view it as a celebrity endorsement.
Re:Frank founder Charlie Javice arrested, charged with defra... by ceejayoz on Thursday April 06, 2023 @02:59PM (#35472815)
> The outcome is the same, people buying something they may not have otherwise.

The outcome is the same between murder and a self-defense homicide, too.

> Also, the fact that viewers know something is an ad doesn't change the fact that they view it as a celebrity endorsement.

That's on them, though. They have the information, it's up to them to act on it.

Re:Frank founder Charlie Javice arrested, charged with defra... by spaceman_2020 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @02:40PM (#35472550)
> Six of the celebrities — excluding Soulja Boy (whose legal name is DeAndre Cortez Way) and Mahone — have agreed to pay a total of more than $400,000 to settle the charges without admitting or denying the SEC's findings

$400k isn't nearly enough to deter anyone in the future. That's a month's income for some of them.

If you could make $1M and pay just a month of your income if caught as fine, would you do it?

Re:Frank founder Charlie Javice arrested, charged with defra... by rsynnott on Thursday April 06, 2023 @11:08AM (#35469347)
It lead to the collapse of a _lot_ of fraudulent schemes, though most were fairly small in the scheme of things; Madoff was probably the most prominent big one.
Re:Frank founder Charlie Javice arrested, charged with defra... by steveBK123 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @12:49PM (#35471045)
Depends on how broadly you define frauds/charlatans. Sure no one really went to jail for managing their banks risk poorly.

But literal actual frauds - ponzis, etc.. some high profile cases you may have memory holed. Madoff, Allen Stanford, and dozens of smaller ones that popped up week to week as the market went down. Plus all the insider trading cases that shut down SAC for a while and put a bunch of PMs in jail or to negative net worth.

Re:Frank founder Charlie Javice arrested, charged with defra... by steveBK123 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @01:21PM (#35471513)
Re:Frank founder Charlie Javice arrested, charged with defra... by steveBK123 on Thursday April 06, 2023 @01:01PM (#35471225)
You can also probably connect the dots to the LIBOR scandal breaking as well.

That one of course I think the wrong people went to jail (the guys at the bottom dumb enough to put the deeds in writing vs the guys ordering it & supervising) & it was less criminal than unethical / immoral / etc.

Re:Frank founder Charlie Javice arrested, charged with defra... by prottog on Thursday April 06, 2023 @10:12AM (#35468549)
As they say, only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked.
Re:Frank founder Charlie Javice arrested, charged with defra... by stronglikedan on Thursday April 06, 2023 @03:26PM (#35473182)
In this case, it's still the "little guy" who's the easy target. Hopefully, it'll parlay into some "big guys", like JPMorgan execs, that get their repercussions.