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Re:Russia confiscates passports of senior officials to stop ... by medo-bear on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:08PM (#35426278)
> I'm not exactly sure what makes you doubt this

well for starters the fact that there is no record of him saying that

Re:Russia confiscates passports of senior officials to stop ... by mcv on Monday April 03, 2023 @05:29PM (#35431547)
There's plenty of record of him doing it, though.
Re:Russia confiscates passports of senior officials to stop ... by medo-bear on Monday April 03, 2023 @09:04PM (#35433643)
so at best you are just inferring
Re:Russia confiscates passports of senior officials to stop ... by mcv on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @03:27AM (#35436270)
I'm looking at his actions, rather than believing the words of a liar.

Just before the war, he said he was not going to invade. Then he did it anyway. His words are meaningless. His actions are what counts. And he obviously did try to take Kyiv. There were paradrops intended to take Kyiv in hours, even. There was a push by more forces to take Kyiv in days. It all failed because they encountered far more serious resistance than they expected, and it turned out they lacked the supplies for a longer operation, and couldn't get those supplies organised in the face Ukrainian defense specifically targeting Russian supply lines. Eventually they couldn't make any progress and withdrew. Though not before murdering lots of civilians in Boucha.

Re:Russia confiscates passports of senior officials to stop ... by medo-bear on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @03:36AM (#35436326)
in 2014 in odesa ukranian nationalists burned protesting students alive. please dont pretend this war is a holywood good vs evil film
Re:Russia confiscates passports of senior officials to stop ... by defrost on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @03:50AM (#35436417)
This would be the building fire:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/02/ukraine-dead-o...

that started after both sides hurled molotov cocktails at each other?

The world is complicated, yes, but your comment reducing this to "one side burned the other side alive" is disingenuous at best.

Re:Russia confiscates passports of senior officials to stop ... by medo-bear on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @04:42AM (#35436809)
the people trapped in the building were either prevented from leaving or beaten up as they tried to leave, while ukranian nationalists chanted "brun! burn!" on the street