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Re:Apple Halted M2 Chip Production in January Amid 'Plummeti... by t3945234 on Monday April 03, 2023 @10:38AM (#35424349)
The United States total fertility rate (1.8 as of 2022) isn't that much different than a large chunk of Europe.

Per this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_d...

* France, Denmark, Sweden, Ireland: 1.8

* Iceland, Czech Republic, UK, Latvia, Netherlands, Belgium, Lithuania, Norway: 1.7

* Romania, Slovenia, Estonia, Albania, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Germany, Switzerland, Austria: 1.6

Yes, there's some countries that have even lower levels (eg Italy and Greece), but that's a large chunk of Europe with a pretty similar fertility rate to the United States. I wouldn't give America a pass on any future sort of demographic discussion regarding this. Heck, China (which you list at "terminal") has a fertility rate of 1.7.

Re:Apple Halted M2 Chip Production in January Amid 'Plummeti... by marknutter on Monday April 03, 2023 @11:41AM (#35425673)
All of those birthrates are terminal, technically.
Re:Apple Halted M2 Chip Production in January Amid 'Plummeti... by oezi on Monday April 03, 2023 @12:31PM (#35426773)
That is such an odd term. As if it the birthrates could no longer change for the positive or as if it would doom countries with birthrates below 2.1 to die.
Re:Apple Halted M2 Chip Production in January Amid 'Plummeti... by bombcar on Monday April 03, 2023 @03:58PM (#35430368)
It’s easy to envision things that would induce people to have fewer kids, it’s harder to come up with things that would make them want to have more. These birth rates are completely new experiences for the world and we’re not quite certain what the outcome will be (as it is, there are likely subcultures that are still above replacement on average, even in the most declining societies).
Re:Apple Halted M2 Chip Production in January Amid 'Plummeti... by Dylan16807 on Monday April 03, 2023 @05:47PM (#35431756)
> it’s harder to come up with things that would make them want to have more

"Ability to buy a house or similar" and "affordable daycare" are probably enough to have a huge impact. We don't need a long list of possible answers.

Re:Apple Halted M2 Chip Production in January Amid 'Plummeti... by phatfish on Monday April 03, 2023 @06:08PM (#35431990)
I bet these five could easily get birth rates above 2.0.

- Reasonable maternity leave allowances.

- Good affordable (or free) healthcare.

- Good affordable (or free) child care until school age.

- Free education to university graduate level.

- Affordable housing.

The super-rich have no interest in allowing this to happen, so countries where having a child is a significant cost will continue to have low fertility rates.

Re:Apple Halted M2 Chip Production in January Amid 'Plummeti... by lttlrck on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @12:22AM (#35435031)
Yet despite having none of those things the US birthrate is above most of Europe.

I don't think you're necessarily wrong BTW but it's not that simple.

Re:Apple Halted M2 Chip Production in January Amid 'Plummeti... by bombcar on Tuesday April 04, 2023 @10:46AM (#35440479)
All of those may help (and arguably, European birthrates would be much worse if they didn't have them) but I don't think they're alone enough to turn around the zeitgeist of the country as a whole.

The two main hurdles to increasing birthrate are:

1. Convince couples with no kids to have one. 2. Convince couples with two/three kids to have one more.

The list might help but the question is how much for each.