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Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by zachthewf on Friday March 31, 2023 @03:20AM (#35383754)
Heh, is this a Therac 25 joke?
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by auggierose on Friday March 31, 2023 @04:00AM (#35384045)
I really hope it is a joke.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by ihatepython on Friday March 31, 2023 @04:00AM (#35384046)
Yes
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by andreasley on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:08AM (#35387380)
Please don't do this here. The topic deserves serious discussion.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by acadapter on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:32AM (#35387728)
Humor is a very sophisticated form of communication. Think of how much was said in so few words, by just poking at shared common knowledge.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by zikduruqe on Friday March 31, 2023 @11:29AM (#35388603)
Tragedy is for those that feel and comedy is for those that think.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by smolder on Friday March 31, 2023 @11:55AM (#35389010)
Lots of comedy more or less proves it needn't be thoughtful as opposed to emotional. Laugh tracks, or the particular speaking style of a standup comic, are riding on the feelings they invoke. Being surrounded by real laughter also makes things "feel" funnier. Laughter is contagious. Fart jokes and home-video genital injuries get laughs with no real "thinking" component.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by _a_a_a_ on Friday March 31, 2023 @01:28PM (#35390242)
Perhaps you're making a point (that eludes me, BTW) by writing clever sounding twaddle. I hope so.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by cutemonster on Saturday April 01, 2023 @04:24AM (#35398391)
At least we can conclude: Dark humor is for those who both feel and think
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by andreasley on Saturday April 01, 2023 @07:47AM (#35399477)
Humor is fine, but when several readers don't recognize it as such, the joke obviously isn't based on shared common knowledge. Some people walk away with wrong information, and that isn't helpful.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by flangola7 on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:19AM (#35387541)
Ok mom
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by stronglikedan on Friday March 31, 2023 @11:02AM (#35388140)
Serious discussion deserves sparse contextual humor.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by carapace on Friday March 31, 2023 @11:09AM (#35388263)
Therac 25 is so serious that jokes are one of the very few ways to discuss it at all, eh?
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by d23 on Friday March 31, 2023 @11:24AM (#35388506)
AI? Or medical equipment malfunctions?
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by xwdv on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:54PM (#35389847)
This joke is how you separate people who know what they’re talking about from the hopeless optimistic crowd.

People who just take that joke as serious clearly haven’t thought through the consequences of using code you don’t completely understand and has no real author. Therac 25 is often a key topic in any rigorous computer science education.

Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by andreasley on Saturday April 01, 2023 @07:51AM (#35399495)
Exactly, but is it a good thing to separate people into groups? How does that help?
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by fasterik on Friday March 31, 2023 @05:21PM (#35393845)
Sometimes satire is the most effective way to make a serious point.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by Aeolun on Friday March 31, 2023 @06:59AM (#35385149)
I cannot step in one of those machines without wondering if there is a hardware cutoff.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by DoingIsLearning on Friday March 31, 2023 @07:39AM (#35385523)
Usually in medical design for class III devices you have to either have some form of hard interlock or an additional redundancy, like a standalone microcontroller for interlocking or a voting system. Hazard Analysis is definitely a thing that is very finely combed by regulators and definitely something companies don't want to fall short on.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by eloff on Friday March 31, 2023 @09:57AM (#35387239)
I went with a mechanic in a chair lift once. He was very nervous, saying he knows the kind of people who maintain these things, and he knows the kinds of things that can go wrong. I feel the same way about automation, whether it be self driving cars or an X-ray machine. I know the kind of people that program them, and the vast number of ways things can go wrong.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by htrp on Friday March 31, 2023 @10:20AM (#35387555)
How many CV engineers own a self driving car becomes the AI equivalent question?
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by HeyLaughingBoy on Friday March 31, 2023 @11:11AM (#35388294)
I work in the medical device field. Funny you should say that because just yesterday I was looking at some really crappy (but still safe, mind you!) code and wondering how I'd feel if I were being wheeled into the OR, knowing "how the sausage is made."
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by Sakos on Monday April 03, 2023 @08:40AM (#35422486)
Do we at least still use hardware interlocks? I hope we still use hardware interlocks.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by HeyLaughingBoy on Monday April 03, 2023 @10:38AM (#35424352)
Hardware "interlocks" are used when the risk cannot be reduced to an acceptable level by software alone.
Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by Turing_Machine on Friday March 31, 2023 @12:39PM (#35389626)
With self-driving cars, you also need to consider the kind of people who might be driving them manually. Drunk, sleepy, prone to road rage, distracted by noisy kids in the car, thinking about their financial or relationship problems... there's a terrible amount of death and shattered lives to consider there.

If I remember right, during the height of the most recent Iraq war, a U.S. soldier had a higher probability of being killed in a traffic accident while in the United States than being killed while actively deployed in Iraq.

If a (so-called) self-driving car screws up and kills some people, it's headline news everywhere. If Joe Blow downs five shots of scotch after being chewed out by his boss and crashes into a carload of kids, it barely makes the local news.

Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by mthoms on Saturday April 01, 2023 @12:40PM (#35401671)
>he knows the kinds of things that can go wrong

Sounds like he didn't know nearly as much as he thought. Chairlifts are remarkably safe.

https://newtoski.com/are-chairlifts-safe/

I get the point you're making though.

Re:AI-enhanced development makes me more ambitious with my p... by weatherlite on Friday March 31, 2023 @09:36AM (#35386962)
Didn't know this story. Wow that sucks.