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Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by krjachkov on Saturday March 25, 2023 @02:17PM (#35305408)
I used to struggle with anxiety and depression (it's very likely was stress-induced depression), and nothing seemed to help. But then I read a similar research article about how gut health could affect mental health. So I started eating more fiber and multiple probiotics. And guess what? My mood improved! I felt less anxious and depressed and more energized. It's crazy to think that something as simple as gut health could make such a difference in a brain.
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by agumonkey on Saturday March 25, 2023 @02:25PM (#35305498)
Restricted time window fasting had a tangible impact on me too (psoriasis vanished 50%) for a while, slept better and less joint pain too. It's not always a silver bullet (causes stress maintaining it in the long run too) but it was interesting to experience it.
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by anonuser123456 on Saturday March 25, 2023 @03:13PM (#35306024)
For myself, it's hard to overstate just how much better I feel using time restricted eating (even with just a 14/10 window). I've done it off and on over the years, but recently had to start again because I was getting mild GERD symptoms. It's basically fixed them completely.

But beyond just the feeling, you can see it directly in my Apple Watch data. HRV goes up considerably. RHR goes down. Estimated VO2 Max does up.

Time restriction seems to be a _VERY_ powerful mechanism for promoting health and wellness.

Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by agumonkey on Saturday March 25, 2023 @04:36PM (#35307038)
I also had mild GERD issues, nothing major, no waking up with burns. What did you change ?

I plan to try a 5/2 diet. eTRF makes me feel tired often and any external stress is difficult to handle. I think 5 normal days and 2 days of full fast during the week might feel good. It may also change metabolism deeper.. I don't know.

Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by anonuser123456 on Saturday March 25, 2023 @05:55PM (#35307837)
All I did was go back from standard American feeding window to a 14/10 window. I stop eating at 7PMish and eat again after 10AM. I've seen studies that show 14/10 is about as good as 16/8.

How long did you try eTRF? It takes time to adapt. Ultimately your body needs to up regulate ketone production or you will feel tired because you really don't have enough energy. Lots of fast carbs will spike insulin and suppress ketone production if you are hyperinsulinemic.

Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by agumonkey on Saturday March 25, 2023 @06:18PM (#35308060)
I forgot precisely.. probably mid-Jan. I'm patient and will keep a month or so to see if things get stable, it's mostly positive so far.
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by polishdude20 on Saturday March 25, 2023 @04:17PM (#35306853)
What's your window like?
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by agumonkey on Saturday March 25, 2023 @04:34PM (#35307018)
So people talked a lot about eTRF (early Time restricted fast) so I went for 7am-4pm but it was a bit hard, now i'm between 8/16 and 10/14, trying to eat early if I can, but otherwise it's more like 10am - 6pm.

Daily issues make it hard to be very regular, but some say variability might be good either.

Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by fithisux on Saturday March 25, 2023 @05:06PM (#35307352)
10am-6pm and Zinc helped a lot with my hemorhoids
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by polishdude20 on Saturday March 25, 2023 @07:29PM (#35308699)
Ah I was thinking it would be a smaller window like 10-2pm or something. This seems pretty doable though. I do notice I sleep better if I stop eating before 7pm
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by agumonkey on Saturday March 25, 2023 @08:06PM (#35308987)
Things are fuzzy, every span is OK as long as you have more than 12h without ingesting food.

Some say the important is to eat early.. but well.

Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by ck425 on Saturday March 25, 2023 @03:42PM (#35306400)
What probiotics did you take? Like tablets or specific foods like yogurt etc?
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by StrangeATractor on Saturday March 25, 2023 @04:27PM (#35306937)
If you go the yogurt route give Nancy's a try. They put probiotics in it after the pasteurization process.
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by IIsi50MHz on Saturday March 25, 2023 @06:52PM (#35308372)
Pasteurization kills the probiotic cultures along with whatever contaminating cultures may have been present, so adding probiotics afterwards makes sense. I just look for "with active cultures" on the label.
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by TheHumanist on Saturday March 25, 2023 @08:21PM (#35309122)
Kefir
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by rubicon33 on Saturday March 25, 2023 @04:56PM (#35307259)
> multiple probiotics.

I get overwhelmed when researching probiotics and end up with buyers dillema. Which ones did you find helpful?

Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by sourcecodeplz on Saturday March 25, 2023 @05:56PM (#35307861)
Yogurt and pickles.
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by TheHumanist on Saturday March 25, 2023 @08:21PM (#35309113)
Kefir!
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Sunday March 26, 2023 @12:30PM (#35316323)
Kimchi. My favorite is from Chi Kitchen in Pawtucket RI.
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by IIsi50MHz on Saturday March 25, 2023 @06:47PM (#35308336)
Because having higher biodiversity in your gut microbiome is associated with various health benefits, including reduced tendency to acquired new allergies, it seems that the more probiotic strains present, the better. Therefore, a supplement offering "5 Billion Probiotics!" with only one or a few strains may be less beneficial than than one offering 40 different strains.

Probiotics supplements that are always kept refrigerated at a suitable temperature range are said to have a tendency for greater potency, simply because more of the cells survive.

Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by syntheweave on Saturday March 25, 2023 @11:31PM (#35310538)
I would just cycle through whatever you'd like to eat and include at least one probiotic source. For me that's usually yogurts(they're a good snack after a walk and it's easy to sample different ones).
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by krjachkov on Sunday March 26, 2023 @02:16AM (#35311590)
I tried so many of them, I use now Raw (Garden of Life) refrigerated probiotics, they seem to work in my case.
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by Llamamoe on Sunday March 26, 2023 @02:36AM (#35311700)
My educated guess based on science I've read:

A combination of a probiotic juice containing postbiotic metabolites(they're what maintains a healthy microbiome) with a high dose(billions of CFU) freeze dried one might be optimal. I strongly suspect that taking them with each meal to give them a competitive advantage in colonizing food during transit and subsequently deposition onto colon walls is beneficial.

Response to individual strains is highly dependent on your existing microbiome, so just try whatever contains a decent variety of at least lactobacillus and bifidobacter strains. I've had luck with JoyDay probiotic juice concentrate plus Swanson's Ultimate 16 strain one.

Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Sunday March 26, 2023 @10:44AM (#35314969)
Probiotics are often unnecessary. A healthy microbiome can be fostered by eating plenty of fresh fruits, vegetables, and fermented foods (yogurt, kefir, etc). There's lots of beneficial bacteria in the environment on the outside of fruit and vegetable for example. High fiber diets also make the environment in your gut better for these microbes so they're more likely to stick around.

I think that probiotics are great but are no replacement for a balanced diet with plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables.

Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by wusher on Wednesday March 29, 2023 @11:49AM (#35358976)
I tried a lot of different ones (over a decade). pendulum and seed both worked the best for me and ended up with seed due to cost.
Re:Immune System Cells in the Gut Linked to Stress-Induced D... by Llamamoe on Sunday March 26, 2023 @02:26AM (#35311646)
I'm going through the same thing. I spent the last year constantly ill, barely able to get out of bed. Day 5 of probiotics with each meal, and I'm rediscovering my creative enthusiasm.