There is Twitch Turbo, which as far as I know does not benefit creators, or does so on a very nominal level. I subscribe to individual streamers that I wish to see continue streaming. I do not care about supporting Twitch, so yes - your argument is valid that money can solve my issue, but then I have to choose between supporting a creator or supporting Twitch.

I play ARPG games specifically, so I follow a lot of creators for those specific games, and when new releases hit - I will most definitely be trying to keep up with the latest strategies and insights. And I will get that information either way, but does that mean I also have to miss interesting moments because I am not willing to support Twitch directly?

All I'm saying is that ads have gotten a lot worse lately and it is extremely noticeable.

> There is Twitch Turbo, which as far as I know does not benefit creators

Twitch Turbo is supposed to benefit the creator the same way an ad would support them. Meaning it would count the ad as shown, but not show it to the viewer. Though, payment for ads are scammingly low for the creators. A sub will in most cases give more support.

> All I'm saying is that ads have gotten a lot worse lately and it is extremely noticeable.

Rumors goes, Amazon demands more money.

They already have a platform-level subscription. It's Twitch Turbo and costs ~$10/month. Removes all ads on the site. I don't think creators get any portion of it like with YouTube Premium though.

IIRC I heard years ago that Turbo "pays" the streamer for the non-watched ads which have been removed for the Turbo user, i.e. fractions of a cent, i.e. nothing. All it does is paying Twitch for doing fuck-all.

So Turbo pays the streamer the same amount per stream as the non-Turbo ad supported account? That sounds good and fair. I don't know why you would expect otherwise.

Heck, Turbo users probably watch more videos and so are better customers even at the same rate.

Rebroadcasting live video to potentially hundreds of thousands of people at once is hardly "fuck-all", that shit costs a lot of money to do well.

I thought they removed turbo for everyone outside Canada, or did they bring it back at some point?

I'm in the US and have been subscribed to Turbo for over a year now, even though I rarely watch Twitch. I just keep my subscription so I don't have to be bothered with ads when I want to turn on a Twitch stream on my Apple TV.

Isn't that what "Twitch Turbo" is?

I never understood this model. Can you imagine how much it would cost to support all my favorite streamers? I don’t even follow many. But let’s say even just 5 and now we’re looking at 25$ / month.

Obviously I must be out of the loop if this currently works… but I don’t get it.

Turbo is nice, but should be just a little cheaper. YT Premium Lite is 7 euros.

The ads are insufferable. Hate how they really want to shove it down your throat even when you back out of a stream and pick another.

Worse it’s badly implemented. Countless times I’m watching the same ads multiple times within 10-15 mins.

Only saving grace on AppleTV if you back out you can wait it out while the stream is still highlighted, with the sound off, then enter the stream again.

Sometimes now, I go into the channel page and pick the last VOD since i usually missed the start of the stream anyway. If they shove ads into vods I guess this will be when I reevaluate what I do with my time. Because Premium Lite is affordable, and Youtube also has livestreams…