Men Without Full-Time Jobs Are 33% More Likely to Divorce

Re:Men Without Full-Time Jobs Are 33% More Likely to Divorce by rowanG077 on Sunday March 05, 2023 @04:06PM (#35033922)

The issue I think is more that women have been fighting for rights while men aren't really allowed to do that in western society. There are countless examples. Women can wear mens clothing and no one bats an eye, but men can't wear womens clothing. It's now normal for women to work, but stay at home men are almost non-existent. Teenage boys kill themselves many times more often but the main thing you hear about in the news is how social media effects teenage girls.

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Re:Men Without Full-Time Jobs Are 33% More Likely to Divorce by musicale on Sunday March 05, 2023 @08:23PM (#35036369)

> men can't wear women's clothing

Regarding men's fashion, I find it interesting that:

Long robes are still worn as formal/professional attire in certain contexts: judicial robes, academic regalia, clerical robes, etc..

Wigs seem largely out of style, with the professional exception of British judges and barristers.

Kilts are still around, but tunics are out of fashion and tights/leggings seem to be relegated to sports/athletics and dance.

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Re:Men Without Full-Time Jobs Are 33% More Likely to Divorce by TheOtherHobbes on Monday March 06, 2023 @08:26AM (#35040661)

None of those are women's clothing. They're formal clothing used for status signalling.

One of the messages is "We are not here to do manual labour, fight physically, or display overt sexuality."

(Kilts are something of an exception, but they're dual-use.)

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Re:Men Without Full-Time Jobs Are 33% More Likely to Divorce by emkemp on Monday March 06, 2023 @10:52AM (#35042462)

Re Kilts, I'm reminded of that scene in _Braveheart_ where the Scots start flashing and mooning the English before a battle starts.

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Re:Men Without Full-Time Jobs Are 33% More Likely to Divorce by red-iron-pine on Monday March 06, 2023 @12:10PM (#35043571)

there is nothing in Braveheart that should be thought of as historically accurate

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Re:Men Without Full-Time Jobs Are 33% More Likely to Divorce by musicale on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @12:03PM (#35071571)

Academic robes and hoods were originally practical for keeping you warm in a freezing university. I can't imagine churches or abbeys were particularly well heated either. Another advantage of robes (or kimonos) is they can trap heat from external sources.

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Re:Men Without Full-Time Jobs Are 33% More Likely to Divorce by musicale on Wednesday March 08, 2023 @12:18PM (#35071808)

Athletic/gym gear, tank tops, bike shorts/leggings, speedos, etc. aren't really formal clothing, and they are practical both for physical activity and for fitness signaling (e.g. attracting mates and discouraging rivals.) (And sports from football to martial arts are a sort of ritualized fight.)

But I think you are on to something - men's attraction strategies are often via resources rather than health/fitness (or overt physical conflict with rivals.)

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Re:Men Without Full-Time Jobs Are 33% More Likely to Divorce by Joker_vD on Monday March 06, 2023 @08:41AM (#35040825)

I'm somewhat upset that tunics are not really a thing any more. Wearing an overly-long tee-shirt is almost the same thing, but only almost.

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Re:Men Without Full-Time Jobs Are 33% More Likely to Divorce by dsq on Tuesday March 07, 2023 @06:58AM (#35054352)

Reminiscent of Roman togas, the clothing for aristocrats and magistrates. Much of today’s western culture is derived from Rome.

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Re:Men Without Full-Time Jobs Are 33% More Likely to Divorce by brundolf on Monday March 06, 2023 @01:38AM (#35038131)

I'm sure it varies widely by region, but men (not trans women) wearing eg. skirts, and stay-at-home men, are both things I've encountered here and there. Not common, maybe, but not unheard-of

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