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Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by ilamont on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @02:24PM (#34901191)
Not many details in this article, but further north there is another threat to undersea cables carrying Internet traffic:

On Feb. 2, a Chinese fishing vessel sailing close to the Matsu Islands severed one of the two cables, which connect the islands with Taiwan proper. Then, six days later, a Chinese freighter cut the second cable.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/21/matsu-islands-internet-...

Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by cld8483 on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @02:32PM (#34901332)
What a truly unfortunate coincidence.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by macintux on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @02:39PM (#34901452)
Rather like the Russian elite who keep mysteriously falling out of buildings.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by chrisdhoover on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @05:44PM (#34904095)
Defenestration, what was once medieval is hip again.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by bcrosby95 on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @06:43PM (#34904763)
I never thought I'd see the day where buildings become sentient and rise up against their overlords.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by tpmx on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @02:41PM (#34901488)
Non-ironical background to the renewed China-Vietnam tensions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Vietnam_relation...

Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by Animats on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @02:53PM (#34901652)
Is this an effort to force Vietnam to route all their traffic via China? Through the Great Firewall?
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by noah_buddy on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @03:18PM (#34902005)
If it is intentional, I would guess it’s more likely general intended to scare Vietnam into accepting island territorial claims
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by sayrer on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @03:43PM (#34902399)
No, they’re trying to get to Singapore. Business in Vietnam is highly dependent on things like Facebook and Google. I was there last year, and have some friends that run businesses there.

https://vietnamembassy-usa.org/news/2001/02/vietnam-puts-reg...

Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by eitland on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @02:55PM (#34901676)
Last fall an internet cable to Svalbard was cut.

AIS recordings showed a Russian fishing vessel traveling many times over a vulnerable spot just before it happened.

Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by kokanee on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @03:11PM (#34901913)
Now we have to worry about Russian phishing attacks and Russian fishing attacks
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by purututu on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @04:20PM (#34902960)
because it's only russia that is invading other countries, throwing nuclear bombs, destroying once functioning countries. russia, russia, russia. im tired!!
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by jahewson on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @07:00PM (#34904936)
And in a worse scenario, Russian fission attacks.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by dredmorbius on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @07:35PM (#34905212)
There's a long history of Russian / Soviet "fishing expeditions" and spy trawlers.

<https://www.blindbatnews.com/2022/08/cold-war-revells-spy-tr...>

<http://www.emmitsburg.net/archive_list/articles/misc/cww/201...>

Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by punnerud on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @03:04PM (#34901812)
And they are spoofing their AIS data frequently. Now they control if they are where the AIS send information about, and use satellites to help with the location task (because they don’t trust the AIS from Russian ships).

Could probably be the same with other countries ships

Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by codetrotter on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @03:03PM (#34901798)
> traveling many times over a vulnerable spot

I am reminded of this classic Ali G skit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdOQYlYS2q0

Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by throwaway742 on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @03:35PM (#34902253)
I don't know it seems plausible to me that it was just an accident. There is plenty of legitimate Russian activity in that area. I'm no fisherman so someone correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think it is that unusual for them to go back and forth. It's not surprising that it happened to a vulnerable spot, because if it wasn't vulnerable the cable wouldn't have broke and no one would be looking into it. Finally the Russians have submarines they could use to cut the cable without being detected. Who runs a covert op with AIS on?
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by bjelkeman-again on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @03:48PM (#34902474)
Why do you need a throwaway account to post that?
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by throwaway742 on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @04:22PM (#34902980)
I make these accounts every so often, use them for a while, and then make a new one. It is just for general privacy reasons.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by oldgradstudent on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @04:14PM (#34902853)
Just ask plainly:

Are you or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party of the United States?

Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by throwaway742 on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @04:22PM (#34902987)
No but I did go to a meeting once. They had doughnuts.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by akiselev on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @05:09PM (#34903650)
That was clearly an FBI honeypot. Real communist meetings only serve Engels Food Cake.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by doublepg23 on Thursday February 23, 2023 @06:00PM (#34917996)
Depending who you ask Engels was the first Revisionist!
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by oldgradstudent on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @05:14PM (#34903710)
I once went to a talk at Berkeley's Revolution Cafe.

Fortunately, I doubt if they could topple a suburban HOA.

Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by throwanem on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @06:03PM (#34904309)
Are you kidding? American communists are more fractious than Quakers - they couldn't topple a game of Jenga if you pulled half the blocks out first.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by oldgradstudent on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @06:07PM (#34904357)
True. That was a bad example. Some HOAs are tough.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by throwanem on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @06:18PM (#34904488)
So's Bob Avakian, I hear. But he's only got three fans.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by lostlogin on Thursday February 23, 2023 @01:16AM (#34907388)
You have hit a tough crowd.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by oh_sigh on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @09:33PM (#34905982)
The account name would be green if they made the account recently just to post this.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by Guthur on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @05:21PM (#34903804)
Well it seems many are hell bent on war so it would hardly be surprising that more infrastructure is deliberately sabotaged.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by nocsi on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @06:21PM (#34904523)
A lot of VN internet infra is yandex (Russia), so I don’t see them intentionally doing so. Especially since Russia has their attention elsewhere. There is a different player that would benefit however
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by lostlogin on Thursday February 23, 2023 @01:14AM (#34907373)
> There is a different player that would benefit however

Who?

Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by hulitu on Thursday February 23, 2023 @12:20PM (#34913462)
The same "player" who benefited from blowing pipelines and arms selling.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by eitland on Thursday February 23, 2023 @10:20PM (#34920352)
And by arms selling you mean giving away arms, right?
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by lostlogin on Friday February 24, 2023 @03:56AM (#34922478)
The whole way down this could apply to the US or Russia and probably a few others.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by TulliusCicero on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @03:10PM (#34901898)
How do fishing vessels sever internet cables lying on the sea floor? Or is this a case of the ships being "fishing vessels"?
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by spiritplumber on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @03:22PM (#34902050)
It's at least possible - drag nets can and do touch the bottom.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by reaperducer on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @03:44PM (#34902410)
As do crab pots and lobster traps.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by dredmorbius on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @07:44PM (#34905291)
Pots and traps tend not to get dragged. Nets do.

It's conceivable for a crabber / lobsterman to damage undersea cables. It's far more likely that it's a net fisher.

Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by gregshap on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @03:42PM (#34902375)
It’s called “bottom trawling” and it’s pretty much what it sounds like.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by ta1243 on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @05:10PM (#34903666)
Also known as cruising?
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by monocasa on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @06:45PM (#34904798)
Russia has a pretty remarkable set of nuclear submarines designed for covert ops. You don't see anything on the surface when they mess with cables.
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by twelve40 on Wednesday February 22, 2023 @11:31PM (#34906785)
Why in the world would they cut the cables to friendly Vietnam, or for that matter Svalbard, which has a Russian town of Barentsburg?
Re:Last undersea Internet cable connecting Vietnam with the ... by Y_Y on Thursday February 23, 2023 @05:00AM (#34908712)
Does Svalbard really have a huge e-commerce sector or something that needs undersea fibre? They doubtlessly have plenty of satellite internet, so this will just limit their bandwidth and maybe interrupt things temporarily. What's the strategic value in cutting it?