Exactly! Seems weird to miss out the name of the project lead.

Moral: When you have a large project don't mention anybody in specific. You will only alienate those you didn't mention.

Well, it's fine to mention the names of key players. But if you choose to do that, it's weird to not mention the name of the person who started the project and has been driving it.

People these days need to grow thicker skins.

this really doesn’t seem like a “it was better in the past” type situation

Each choice we make in this world alienates some. We don’t need to avoid it. The upside of recognizing people on the team probably far outweighs the downside of missing someone. One should probably know who made significant contributions on one’s project. If films are able to have credits for everyone who worked on the project, the so can we.

Yeah, beyond. It ventures less into oversight than it does a slight.

Seems like innocent mistake is most likely.

I’ll also note I’ve been following him and it’s sad to see how much many pointless drive by objections he seems to get from non-maintainers when trying to upstream code.

Tbh after I maintained a medium sized open-source project for a while, I became a real misanthrope and gave it up. I decided my life is worth too much to me to waste it on random ingrates who sent me actual death threats for not doing what they want. Why would I put up with this?

Though tbf, the number of wonderful people was much greater, but I just couldn't take the negativity i was getting from a not insignificant minority of manchildren who have probably never heard the word "no" from mommy and daddy while growing up

At least he does seem to be getting paid via patreon subscribers.

There's a very vocal group of such people, sadly. Thank you for saying no to them as long as you did. Makes it a little less likely the rest of us will encounter them in our open source projects.

I suppose here's a reason why many people choose to contribute to private companies instead -- better compensation, more respect. Only thing that's better in public projects is the knowledge that you might be doing something good for everyone.

Those 2 things aren't mutually exclusive.

100%. I worked on a very popular Open Source project, and for years those "manchildren" were making my blood boil, borderline made me depressed, and it was clearly turning me into a bitter and angry person. To a point I decided to just get off all social medias, start ignoring bug reports, and isolate my work to less public-facing parts of the codebase. The day I got off bugzilla and moved to a standalone project was a massive relief.

Where was it hosted? And was there not a "block" button?

On the other hand, I also had to stop following him because he's in a middle of SOME social media drama pretty much constantly and not all of it is externally inflicted and not all of his rants/conflicts are the fault of kernel maintainers or other people.

It seriously reminds me of hackerspace/opensource drama we've been part of in my college years and by now I've kinda grown up enough to find it tiring and remember that you need two parties to cause it.

Reading his mastodon feed, Marcan may be not so different from the maintainers he claims are the issue.

Imagine being a maintainer of a specific section of the code, only to receive an email from contributor stating that you must move to github from mailing list and if you disagree then "tough luck" and it's your fault.

I also found that line really strange. Not to take away from Alyssa's brilliant work, but the sentence made it sound like she's carrying the company/project on her back here.

Probably more of the unfortunate part is that the GPU stuff is what everyone is most excited about. Hector's work is instrumental and he is instrumental to all of it coming together, but his work just doesn't get seen as being as flashy. Make sure I also mention, yes Alyssa's work is brilliant too. They are all brilliant and deserve praise, but GPU work is gonna be more exciting to see for the lay person.

But even that's a bit weird in the context of the kernel 6.2 release because Alyssa's work generally hasn't been around the Kernel, she's been working on the userspace driver.

It's Asahi Lina who really did the kernel driver (building on Alyssa's reverse engineering work).

> It's Asahi Lina who really did the kernel driver (building on Alyssa's reverse engineering work).

Mostly based on her own reverse engineering work actually (which was all livestreamed). Alyssa's work was on the shader ISA and what goes into the various command queues to get the GPU to do useful things, Lina's work was on the lower level aspects of how the queues even work, interactions with the firmware, power management, etc.

Isn't Asahi Lina, Marcan's alter-ego? Apologies if I got the wrong end of the stick there.

Maybe, maybe not. Since it's not explicitly public, it's nicer not to assume that or ask. Privacy is a big thing in vtubers community.

Probably. Maybe.

They use all the same tools etc. But given Asahi Lina has chosen not to reveal their identity it's better to just assume it's a different person.

We all know why that is.

In the $current_year things are so hilariously sexist that I pass my work off as my wife's so I can make more money pretending to be her.

Makes me wonder how many great men of the past were actually their wives alter egos.

this is being downvoted to death, but makes you think

> Makes me wonder how many great men of the past were actually their wives alter egos.

Interesting thought. I know JK Rowling is "JK" because her publisher wanted to obscure her gender. This sort of thing is probably common.

What's even more common is all the supposed genocides in the colonies that left no one alive. Just like today Elizabeth Warren pretended to be the extremely blond Indian so did Sitting Cloud turn into the extremely tanned Sicilian: Marco Totally Italiano.

I hate to speculate, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hector Martin explicitly instructed them to put the spotlight on somebody else. It's certainly a nice gesture if so.

This is a good point.

I'm pretty sure he'd mention Asahi Lina as well then?