Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by guhidalg on Sunday January 29, 2023 @01:33AM
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But why? If you had the choice of EQUIVALENT (bandwidth, latency, jitter, reliability, etc…) network connectivity, why pick a wire over wireless?
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Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by gmokki on Sunday January 29, 2023 @01:40AM
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Wireless consumes more energy. So it is more enironmentally friendly to go with wires, especially fiber.
Personally I like to have both, wired main connection and wireless as backup.
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by mattmaroon on Sunday January 29, 2023 @01:52AM
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Is it though? What’s the environmental footprint of manufacturing, installing, and maintaining all of those wires?
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by mynameisvlad on Sunday January 29, 2023 @01:59AM
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While not as much, installing and maintaining the 5G endpoints also requires all that, and they generally have to be wired to achieve low latency, meshing only does so much and the speed of light is going to win out for backhauls.
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by adgjlsfhk1 on Sunday January 29, 2023 @02:01AM
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A lot lower than manufacturing chips to do the complex signal processing needed for fast and reliable wireless.
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by JohnFen on Sunday January 29, 2023 @01:56AM
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If it costs more, I wouldn't pick wireless. Losing the wire for my home internet gains me nothing.
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by jmopp on Sunday January 29, 2023 @02:14AM
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I don't trust that the wireless solution would be equivalent, though this may be because I've been burned too many times living in concrete houses that block cellphone signal rather effectively.
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by pshc on Sunday January 29, 2023 @02:52AM
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It isn’t equivalent. Optical fiber beats 5G on those criteria.
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by rocqua on Sunday January 29, 2023 @03:16AM
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Wireless is inherently easier to accidentally get disrupted. When wired internet fails, it is rarely the wire. More importantly, if it is the wire that is easy to check and fix.
With wireless internet, disruption can be caused by many things. That makes diagnosing a problem so much harder. Incidentally it also tends to be less reliable.
Besides that, the massive complexity of the technology stack makes wireless harder to manage, configure, figure out compatibility for, and more prone to software bugs.
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by HPsquared on Sunday January 29, 2023 @04:32AM
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Wireless does has an advantage in terms of redundancy. If the nearest tower fails, you can probably also use another one nearby. Not so with wired connections, where the whole signal chain needs to be intact. Even if the whole network fails, you can probably switch SIM and use a different network.
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by headsoup on Sunday January 29, 2023 @07:00AM
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I suppose you don't live rurally...
But they both have trade-offs. Wireless allows many connections at once rather easily at the cost of interference and (potentially) speed and reliability, cable is more expensive up front if infrastructure isn't already there.
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by renonce on Sunday January 29, 2023 @07:05AM
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You can have such redundancy for wire too. People simply figured out that it’s so reliable there is no need for extra redundancy.
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by thefz on Sunday January 29, 2023 @04:51AM
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Wireless should be the exception, not the norm. When you really need a device to move.
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by headsoup on Sunday January 29, 2023 @06:58AM
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Well I could make that assumption... and make the whole conversation pointless.
Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is 5G strictly worse than LTE?
by nerdbert on Sunday January 29, 2023 @05:45PM
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I would hate to have all the devices in my house connect directly to a wireless signal from the ISP, for example. I manage the DNS and firewall to control what goes on. Giving up that control means more ads and more tracking and nothing good for me. Having fiber come into the house has no drawbacks that I can see, so why trade that away for something worse?