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Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by randmeerkat on Thursday January 26, 2023 @01:47PM (#34536639)
So, I googled Kagi, found their link… Not only is it required to create an account to use their service, they want a credit card to bill as well! Hard pass.
Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by barbazoo on Thursday January 26, 2023 @02:34PM (#34537495)
What would you prefer? Anonymous payments? And regardless of payment method, how would you avoid creating an account to tie the payment to?
Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by codalan on Thursday January 26, 2023 @03:30PM (#34538332)
Payment via digital gift cards sold on Amazon, e.g. Mullvad

Granted, this would probably be a very miniscule amount of their users.

Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by groby_b on Thursday January 26, 2023 @04:01PM (#34538777)
That's not how businesses process payment. Any responsible finance department will call a hard no on that. (And from a consumer side, asking to pay with a gift card is usually a huge red flag that a scam is incoming)
Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by willcipriano on Thursday January 26, 2023 @04:11PM (#34538902)
I believe they mean a gift card for their service, as in they should offer gift cards. Not send us $50 worth of Google Play gift cards.

https://www.amazon.com/Mullvad-VPN-Devices-Protect-Security/...

Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by codalan on Thursday January 26, 2023 @08:16PM (#34541270)
Yep
Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by drcongo on Friday January 27, 2023 @05:55AM (#34544687)
This Valentine's Day, give someone the true gift of love, a search.
Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by Karunamon on Thursday January 26, 2023 @01:54PM (#34536787)
Yes, as a paid service who directly sells their primary product rather than a data mining, anti-privacy homunculus whose most famous product is merely a means to an end, an account and payment is required. This is strictly better than Google.
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Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by Karunamon on Thursday January 26, 2023 @02:03PM (#34536959)
Your goals are mutually exclusive.
Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by randmeerkat on Thursday January 26, 2023 @02:04PM (#34536983)
DuckDuckGo is 100% privacy focused, free, and doesn’t require an account or credit card to use.
Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by Karunamon on Thursday January 26, 2023 @02:12PM (#34537098)
They are privacy focused in as much as they don't track you themselves, they just hand you off to Microsoft to be tracked.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/24/ddg-microsoft-tracking-blo...

Their founder is also on record as "down ranking misinformation", which is not a judgment call I want my search engine making. Relevance and truth are two different things.

Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by barbazoo on Thursday January 26, 2023 @02:40PM (#34537589)
> Their founder is also on record as "down ranking misinformation"

https://mashable.com/article/duckduckgo-search-engine-russia...

Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by Karunamon on Thursday January 26, 2023 @02:44PM (#34537648)
Also here, straight from the horse's mouth: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33247856

The sketchy and indirect way they engage with this criticism put me off of ever trusting DDG.

Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by barbazoo on Thursday January 26, 2023 @02:58PM (#34537858)
Thanks!
Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by danjoredd on Thursday January 26, 2023 @04:42PM (#34539242)
If you are into self-hosting, I hear Searx is pretty good. Been thinking on setting that up on my personal server so I can just stop relying on companies
Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by sdm on Thursday January 26, 2023 @08:05PM (#34541192)
The problem is DuckDuckGo is very USA and English focused. I've switched to it myself long ago, but it's very frustrating when I search for things and it brings up American shops higher than anything else. I'm not going to 5,000km to go shopping. You move out of English it's even worse. For general tech searching it's on par with Google. But if you are looking for things locally I often find the need to switch back to Google.
Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by Tijdreiziger on Thursday January 26, 2023 @08:32PM (#34541370)
It has a location toggle at the top of the results page. It works fine for me, and I’m not from an English-speaking country.
Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by benhurmarcel on Friday January 27, 2023 @03:33AM (#34543930)
Yes, and it's not as good.
Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by bluepoint on Thursday January 26, 2023 @04:19PM (#34538998)
Are you sure about the credit card? I signed up without one. There is a free option.
Re:Google Is Screwed, Even If It Wins Its Antitrust Case by edgyquant on Thursday January 26, 2023 @09:54PM (#34541905)
Cool. Continue using Google then.