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Re:Ask HN: How do you trust that your personal machine is no... by bo1024 on Sunday January 15, 2023 @10:02AM (#34389898)
Maybe you're thinking of privacy, not security?

In terms of privacy, Android is "compromised" by default, i.e. Google collects and stores a ton of private information about you. I believe Apple used to be much better, and still is, but getting worse.

Re:Ask HN: How do you trust that your personal machine is no... by jacooper on Sunday January 15, 2023 @10:49AM (#34390228)
Both are one the same level at this point.
Re:Ask HN: How do you trust that your personal machine is no... by aio2 on Sunday January 15, 2023 @11:11AM (#34390434)
It seems before, Apple was trying to gain a monopoly. Now that it has enough users, it turns to tracking.

However, this is a speculation, so please take it as a grain of salt.

Re:Ask HN: How do you trust that your personal machine is no... by jacooper on Sunday January 15, 2023 @11:29AM (#34390596)
Re:Ask HN: How do you trust that your personal machine is no... by fsflover on Sunday January 15, 2023 @02:27PM (#34392335)
Not the same, but similar enough: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26639261.
Re:Ask HN: How do you trust that your personal machine is no... by doc_gunthrop on Sunday January 15, 2023 @02:25PM (#34392307)
> In terms of privacy, Android is "compromised" by default, i.e. Google collects and stores a ton of private information about you.

Apple also does the same. Also, this only applies if you're running an Android device "out-of-the-box". Fortunately, there exist AOSP forks that mitigate this type of intrusion (e.g. GrapheneOS).

Re:Ask HN: How do you trust that your personal machine is no... by roydivision on Monday January 16, 2023 @03:06AM (#34398138)
Apple may collect some minimal information, but the crucial difference is that that data is not the basis of Apple's business model.