Re:TSMC starts volume production of 3nm chips
by visarga on Thursday December 29, 2022 @05:58PM
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Move compute closer to memory.
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Re:TSMC starts volume production of 3nm chips
by TillE on Thursday December 29, 2022 @06:16PM
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Bigger L1/L2 caches is definitely another "easy" thing with substantial benefits, but doing it cheaply is hard.
Re:TSMC starts volume production of 3nm chips
by sroussey on Thursday December 29, 2022 @06:44PM
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Those caches are SRAM which has not improved much the last few generations.
Re:TSMC starts volume production of 3nm chips
by wmf on Thursday December 29, 2022 @10:53PM
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That's not easy at all because larger caches are slower. A higher hit rate with worse latency can give worse performance. We may see more levels of cache to better optimize the tradeoffs.
Re:TSMC starts volume production of 3nm chips
by zozbot234 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @06:06PM
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You mean moving memory closer to compute. And that's happening already in lots of places, even though it brings increased complexity due to having to account for NUMA.
Re:TSMC starts volume production of 3nm chips
by visarga on Friday December 30, 2022 @11:59AM
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I am thinking long term, as neural nets scale up, we'll have to move compute into memory. The other way around is problematic, small caches don't work well with neural nets. In fact the fastest Transformer (FlashTransformer) is based on principled usage of the SRAM cache because that's the bottleneck.