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Re:GIMP Turns 27 by whywhywhywhy on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @05:53PM (#33809167)
At this point I don’t think it’s controversial to say that this project existing has harmed creative tools on Linux.

If another project had become the de-facto we’d have all those basic features.

Instead we’re stuck with something that almost provides the basics ok, because it exists people treat it like a solved problem, and it has such a history no one’s allowed to say it just frankly isn’t usable for it’s one job.

Re:GIMP Turns 27 by Nition on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @05:59PM (#33809233)
In some ways the de facto standard now is http://www.photopea.com in a browser.
Re:GIMP Turns 27 by wankle on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @06:07PM (#33809322)
GIMP I've used for years and years, never heard of photopea, was the comment a SPAM Ad spot?
Re:GIMP Turns 27 by mardifoufs on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @06:09PM (#33809342)
No, photopea is pretty well known now. Mentionned a few times on HN too
Re:GIMP Turns 27 by Gigachad on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @06:32PM (#33809618)
Photopea is almost more well known than gimp these days.
Re:GIMP Turns 27 by denkmoon on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:49PM (#33811197)
Who knows why you're being downvoted, and I'd say it's _more_ well known than GIMP.

My sister has used Photopea. She's as far from a sophisticated computer user as you can get. Regular people can stumble across Photopea, they certainly don't know about GIMP.

Re:GIMP Turns 27 by Agrue8u on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @09:36PM (#33811614)
Haven't used photoshop in 10 years. I have gimp, never use it. Paint.net is my basic image tool, along with IrfanView, for which I have a license circa 2004. I also use Scribus, FOSS version of InDesign. But never heard of Photopea until today...
Re:GIMP Turns 27 by baud147258 on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @06:49PM (#33809827)
personally I prefer https://pixlr.com/, but then it's mostly because I learned to use it first.
Re:GIMP Turns 27 by nextaccountic on Thursday December 01, 2022 @01:28AM (#33813031)
It's not free software though
Re:GIMP Turns 27 by agumonkey on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @06:07PM (#33809323)
Personally I credit GIMP for making me learn imagemagick.
Re:GIMP Turns 27 by wankle on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @06:06PM (#33809315)
> this project existing has harmed creative tools on Linux

If anything, GIMP has brought more people to Linux from the dark side.

Re:GIMP Turns 27 by whywhywhywhy on Thursday December 01, 2022 @05:12AM (#33814413)
Not anyone who needs to edit images in a professional sense. They arrive, try GIMP because they’re told it’s a Photoshop alternative then leave when they see the lack of normal features.

It’s actually even bad for students because to create with GIMP you have to do early 90s image editing workflows which are no longer used in real jobs.

Re:GIMP Turns 27 by wankle on Thursday December 01, 2022 @06:23PM (#33824502)
A lot of people including me from time to time do need to deal with some image editing at work and do not need Photoshop (nor have I ever used Photoshop) and GIMP's powerful tools more than fill this need.
Re:GIMP Turns 27 by HKH2 on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @07:20PM (#33810260)
Krita has those features. Sure it would probably be better if more people worked on Krita, but I'm often pleasantly surprised by the new features they implement.
Re:GIMP Turns 27 by matkoniecz on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @07:25PM (#33810341)
I am confused why you think that Gimp somehow magically used all slots for image software development.

It is not like it is extremely well funded or otherwise resource consuming.

> because it exists people treat it like a solved problem

People complaining about lack of alternative projects in open source is a new one for me

> it has such a history no one’s allowed to say it just frankly isn’t usable for it’s one job.

that is not how free software creation works like, really

Re:GIMP Turns 27 by lmm on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @09:35PM (#33811612)
> I am confused why you think that Gimp somehow magically used all slots for image software development.

The linux distribution model seems to lead it to, somehow. If you open up a RedHat machine and ask it for a picture editor, you're going to get Gimp, even though Krita would almost certainly be better at doing what you want.

Re:GIMP Turns 27 by matkoniecz on Thursday December 01, 2022 @03:16AM (#33813669)
Have you tried filing bug report/feature request to change such default in at least one distribution?

(or tried filing any such configuration request in any Linux distribution and got it rejected/ignored?)

Re:GIMP Turns 27 by Euphorbium on Thursday December 01, 2022 @03:13AM (#33813650)
My favorite conspiracy theory is that gimp is made by adobe or microsoft, to sabotage open source alternatives entirely. Even starving kids in Africa will save up for photoshop and windows, once they have used gimp. Literally every alternative is better than gimp.