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Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by thwayunion on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:04PM (#33725105)
My MiL spends 10+ hours a day watching conspiracy theory videos on the internet (used to be YouTube, but now a lot of the channels are suspended so she uses alternative sites). It doesn't make her happy, it isn't good for her physical health, and it causes extreme social isolation.

Anger and conspiracy completely dominate her personality. We can't go more than 10-20 minutes without some sort of serious accusation, which are often passive-aggressive and accusatory toward people in the room. She has directly accused me of multiple serious felonies and conspiracies, by virtue of the fact that I work in tech.

She is no longer allowed to visit one of her daughters because my BiL (wife's sister's husband?) is not on speaking terms with her. She chooses not to visit another daughter. She floats around church social groups, who all sort of give her a few months and then punt her to the next group.

To be clear: these aren't down to major political disagreements. Most of her family and friend group are all on the same page. Even her Q Anon neighbor won't speak with her anymore. It's bad. She has no friends and is slowly losing her family.

When she visits us for holidays we have to warn friends not to engage with the fights she tries to pick. We train them on how to treat her as they would a child without being patronizing. It's hard.

She is not happy, and I wish we could get her to spend less time watching videos on the internet.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by ajsnigrutin on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:28PM (#33725324)
I find it sad, that you can find such stuff on discovery network channels... so channels that were for legit education and documentaries not that long ago, and now show some reality crap (pawn stars,...) and fake conspiracy crap (ancient aliens, mermaids, bigfoot, etc.).
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by ClumsyPilot on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:55PM (#33725568)
> bigfoot

That particular one offends me the most - we went from 0.3 megapixels to 300 and it's still fucking blurry

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by orangepurple on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:14PM (#33725736)
A typical old school film camera is about 87 megapixels equivalent

https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/film-resolution.htm

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by _aavaa_ on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:59PM (#33726113)
*film stock in optimal conditions.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by dehrmann on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @10:02PM (#33727392)
I took a photography class in middle school. We used 35 mm black and white film. I scanned all the negatives in with a decent Nikon film scanner. I can't remember why I settled on scanning at 2MP, but you could already see the grain: https://i.imgur.com/dcFksGp.jpeg
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by _aavaa_ on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @10:25PM (#33727503)
Sounds like it was a fun class!

If you still have them, and a digital camera with a macro lens, you'll be surprised how much better result (actual resolved resolution versus MP "resolution") you'll get with than using a scanner.

If I had to guess as why you stopped at 2MP, it was probably a mixture of diminishing returns in terms of extra resolving power and size. Idk when you took them, but I imagine size was also a consideration. A 2MP uncompressed tiff (which I imagine is what the scanner gave you) is ~5MB. Now, you could drop that down to ~1.6 if you could save them as single channel rather than RGB.

This is also where the optimal conditions come in (motion blur, camera shake, exposure, and how it was developed).

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by dehrmann on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @10:53PM (#33727641)
It was! I scanned them around 2009, so it wasn't size, it was that I wasn't getting more useful resolution. The scanner was a Nikon Coolscan V ED. I might still have some prints I can look at to compare, but I'm not sure how to do the same with a negative.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by Firther on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @11:00PM (#33727666)
As per usual Ken is being pretty disingenuous here, even ignoring the hyperbole about needing a 175MP digital sensor to 'capture the same information'.

Velvia 50 might resolve 160 lines/mm (I'm not sure if this is line pairs/mm or lines/mm) but that's at a contrast ratio of 1000:1, for a contrast ratio of 1.6:1 (more typical for normal shooting conditions) you're down to 80 lines/mm which is 22.1 MP, and that's for just the film stock under optimal conditions. When you factor in real life shooting conditions like the lens MTF charts, the aperture you were shooting at, whether you were shooting on a stable tripod, dust, grain, noise, etc, that number only goes down.

Conventional wisdom has been that you can get good results scanning colour film at 6-12MP, and this tracks with the results people got when they started comparing the first DSLRs to 35mm film - something like the full frame 11MP Canon EOS-1DS from 20 years ago with a mere 25 line pairs/mm (including losses from the Bayer and AA filters) compares favourably(*) to medium format film, with 6-8MP DX format DSLRs from the same era comparing favourably to 35mm. B&W film can be scanned at a higher resolution but still, 87MP is a theoretical maximum not a practical one.

https://luminous-landscape.com/shootout/

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by chillfox on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:07PM (#33725683)
It’s always in sufficient light for a modern camera to have 1000+ shutter speed as well.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by datavirtue on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:00PM (#33725619)
Leave sasquatch out of this.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by chillfox on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:03PM (#33725646)
I remember watching Discovery and National Geography documentaries when I was a kid and absolutely loved them. A few years ago when I could afford a cable subscription of my own I was so excited about finally getting access to that content again, but the excitement didn’t last long. It was all reality TV, conspiracies and ads, like all of it all the time. Not a single serious documentary was aired in the first two weeks of being subscribed, and by the third week I had stopped checking the program. So I canceled it before the month was up.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by slivanes on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:05PM (#33725655)
I find Pawn Stars (without the ads, i.e. on YT) pretty enjoyable and interesting.

I agree that Discovery Channel and similar ilk are pretty awful though, not much substance at all to those - and the volume of ads makes it unwatchable regardless.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by nradov on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @09:48PM (#33727321)
Pawn Stars is just harmless fun. They don't push any politics or conspiracy theories, the fake drama is minimal, and you can actually learn little bits of interesting history.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by astura on Thursday November 24, 2022 @08:27AM (#33731060)
The problem I have with Pawn Stars is the main cast is so insufferable.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by neura on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:24PM (#33725298)
I have a relative like this, but she watches absolutely nothing. She believes some of her family members are out to get her though. She's in an assisted living facility and her phone has been taken away because she has called the police too many times, claiming that one of her family members is breaking in her window, to poison her.

I'm not claiming that's the same thing, but I'm not sure less time watching videos will correct the issue or won't just lead to some other issue.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by thwayunion on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:52PM (#33726051)
No, it's a good thought. Thanks for sharing. We've talked with her physician about the possibility of this being some early signs of dementia. We don't have actual family medical history, but what we know from word of mouth lines up with dementia-like symptoms. So it may run in the family.

But she is still functional and able to do the business of life. For now.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by kristianc on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:29PM (#33725340)
There is something to this — the general theme of daytime TV in Britain, when it’s not doing endless property shows, or shows where people buy property in other countries, is “the man is out to get you” — a litany of shows on small time criminals, consumer scams, or local crime waves. Perhaps not surprisingly, Britain’s elderly population tends to be very right wing.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by ClumsyPilot on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:56PM (#33725581)
> a litany of shows on ... consumer scams

That sounds like it could be good to be aware of, came across so many acams myself, most prosperous industry after brexit

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by _jal on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:57PM (#33725590)
In the 80s, US AM radio was taken over by similar content. It is happening again with local news, both broadcast and "print".

Seems to be the fate of declining media modalities.

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Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by imtyler on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:37PM (#33725935)
Unless you provide reasoning this comes across as needlessly snide.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by lupire on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:54PM (#33726059)
The parent poster, a 99.99%ile brilliant engineer (seriously) and entrepreneur has a long history of posting libertarians talking points on any vaguely related topic.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by imtyler on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @07:04PM (#33726161)
I'm not sure what you're trying to assert?

I'm not aware of a ile scale of brilliance. I also don't know why a history or libertarianism is relevant?

I just think that the comment wasn't constructive.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by WalterBright on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @08:19PM (#33726750)
> libertarians talking points

Frankly, I've haven't read much of any libertarian literature, nor touchstones like Ayn Rand. My opinions come simply from reading lots of history and economic books.

A seminal experience for me was touring East Berlin in 1969. The contrast with West Berlin was stark.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by WalterBright on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @08:12PM (#33726694)
Here's one for you. It takes 10 government funded housing units to get one homeless person into housing.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S10511...

It's hard to conclude that this is an effective program.

Some discussion of this in the WSJ:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/housing-first-foments-homelessn...

A consistent reason why left wing programs fail is they do not take supply&demand into consideration.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by onecommentman on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:37PM (#33725416)
My impression is that there have been “cranky paranoid old pensioners” around since the dawn of time. I wouldn’t ascribe your MiL’s attitude or behaviors primarily to on-line videos or TV. They’ve been ranting in fraternal lodges, political party offices, coffeehouses, etc. for many hundreds of years prior. Twas ever thus. Keeps the circulation flowing for old folks.

If you can find someone her age who shares her “disruptive” world-views and likes arguing, facilitating a folie-à-deux might make things better for all concerned. Older folks tend to become more blunt and uncensored as time progresses and they also accept blunt and uncensored feedback…but generally only from those in their own age group. Of course, then there are two of them :-).

If it gets really bad, then a (surreptitious?) evaluation for some degenerative brain disorder probably needs to happen. Count your blessings, it isn’t that bad yet and as a SiL you are blissfully distant from the need to initiate anything.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by ClumsyPilot on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:57PM (#33725595)
> I wouldn’t ascribe your MiL’s attitude or behaviors primarily to on-line videos or TV

The social network rahe machine feeds your inherent fears like a drug dealer feeds off those in desperate or dead end life situation. They are somewhere between exploiting for profit an existing condition, or creating / worsening it.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by Gordonjcp on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:06PM (#33725127)
> She floats around church social groups, who all sort of give her a few months and then punt her to the next group.

My teenager and her friends know someone like this who they described as "speedrunning friendships", and honestly that's the best description you're going to hear.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by thwayunion on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:10PM (#33725157)
It's even worse. She cycles through, as in multiple times with each group. The church knows her issues, so they cycle her through 3-4 small groups for a few months at a time so that she's included and taken care of but not overly burdensome on any particular group of people.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by Gordonjcp on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:20PM (#33725257)
The patience of saints. Good to know that someone's keeping an eye on her, I guess.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by datavirtue on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:10PM (#33725708)
They are also very patient with sexual and financial predators in their midst. If I was going to make my living scamming, my home base would be a large fundamentalist christian church. Over 40, bald and fat? Want teenage girls fighting each other for the chance to be your bride? I can point you in a few directions. They will even house, feed, and clothe you until you can get on your feet and ravage their flock.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by thwayunion on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:59PM (#33726111)
Yeah, we had to intervene with respect to a particularly scummy financial planner from the church in particular. Completely idiotic fixed income products that made no sense relative to the alternatives. He was a non-fiduciary and taking commission plus absurd fees, of course.

The church is a net positive and mostly saints, as GP characterizes. But anywhere you find a high trust environment with low barrier to entry there will be some wolves in the flock.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by vkou on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:10PM (#33725161)
I have a close friend who is in that exact same situation with his mother. She lost her job, her husband lost his job, she's representing herself in a vaccine lawsuit (Spoilers: it's not going well), and she is completely incapable of being a human being around her children, all of it because she's fully committed to the Qult.

This isn't advanced age mental decline, this is just the consequence of a garbage-in-garbage-out information diet, and every nutty group building their own Facebook echo chamber.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by rapind on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:19PM (#33725244)
> This isn't advanced age mental decline, this is just the consequence of a garbage-in-garbage-out information diet.

I’m not goong to excuse crappy behaviour, but given that they both lost their job I think we can assume the economy is also a contributing factor (not claiming it’s the sole factor though).

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by SargeDebian on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:28PM (#33725327)
You mean the economy that is facing a worker shortage has caused them to lose their job?
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by SQueeeeeL on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:40PM (#33725437)
I love the idea of forcing a fired 59 year old mid level executive to suddenly serve coffee at a Dunkin Donuts, and shouting at them asking "Why aren't you happy with this job!?!"

Realistically, the reason we have a worker shortage is because all the jobs are non-unionized shit jobs that treat you like a meat puppet and actively abuse you

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by the_lonely_road on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:40PM (#33725435)
A 55 year old losing their 100k job and facing only minimum wage offers that replaces 30% of their income is a sad reality for a lot of Americans right now. There is not a worker shortage in every area of the economy just in the economy as a whole.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by astrange on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:41PM (#33725967)
Wages for the bottom 25th percentile of Americans are significantly up in the last 2 years, even counting inflation. I promise the economy is actually doing well.

(For instance, if everyone was losing wages there wouldn't be inflation.)

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by thwayunion on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @07:02PM (#33726139)
Didn't real wages decrease in the latest print?
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by astrange on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @07:20PM (#33726282)
Yes, real wages decreased on average for everyone, but the bottom quartile increased so much from 2019 that they're still ahead. Of course, it always depends which point you start measuring from.

Gas prices (which drives a lot of how people feel everything is doing) have also been up and down but are solidly down recently.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by astrange on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @09:49PM (#33727325)
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by rapind on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:35PM (#33725398)
Is it a worker shortage or a wage shortage though?
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by ClumsyPilot on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:04PM (#33725653)
Exactly, if I put out an add like this it will be counted into worker shortage:

'Hiring decelipers with experience of devops, security, and 15 years of Rust experience. Proven controbutions to linux Kernel. $30k'

We can all see how laughable this is. It is equally laughable to hire workers on shit wages, just because they are blue caller jobs doesnt mean there is no minimum bar at all

The market swings both ways, but media seems to have inherent bias favour how employer's would like it to be

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by vkou on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:22PM (#33725268)
They lost their jobs in 2021, because they, among other things, thought that someone who has taken the COVID vaccine 'emits particles that damage the female body'. (They would not allow their son into their house for months after he was vaccinated.)

The economy was not the problem last year, unassailable certainty in ignorant beliefs was. They have new jobs now, which are harder, and much worse paying.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by rapind on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:39PM (#33725434)
Just wanted to acknowledge your response. Don’t really have anything to add though. Probably a whole bunch of contributing factors /shrug.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by jeffbee on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:30PM (#33725348)
> accused me of multiple serious felonies and conspiracies, by virtue of the fact that I work in tech.

You can't use this site for an hour without that happening right here.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by satvikpendem on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @05:49PM (#33725517)
There are stories of adult children deprogramming their parents / in-laws by blocking these sites via their routers [0], and within a few weeks they're able to see their parents' views and demeanor visibly change for the positive [1].

The post from BestOfRedditorUpdates [1] for example shows the progression, basically the same as the 5 stages of grief, or withdrawal from a drug habit. First they get angry, then they try to find ways around it, then they accept that they can't and start doing something else.

The truth is most people don't really go to these sites out of choice, they do it out of habit. If you can alter the habit, you can stop them from consuming such content. It's no different than stopping any other habit, like (if you're a smoker or alcoholic) not going to places where people smoke for example.

You can also replace the habit with something else; like smokers chewing nicotine gum instead of smoking, or like those trying to lose weight going for a walk instead of sitting at home and cracking open a cold one after a long day of work, this person's aunt replaced it with BTS [2].

[0] https://old.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/vb3ddu/rhe...

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/yz7y...

[2] https://old.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/comments/sis22t/my_...

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by BolexNOLA on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:12PM (#33725719)
I’ve been tempted to do this but it feels…wrong. Like bordering on gaslighting/taking someone’s phone away without their consent. It makes me feel like a bully.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by satvikpendem on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:17PM (#33725758)
Sure, but is that better or worse than your parents becoming cult-like and being harmed psychologically? Propaganda is a real thing, these websites and TV channels spend a lot of time and money trying to manipulate their users, I don't think it's morally wrong to fight back against that.

It's the same as what many HNers say about TikTok, Facebook, Twitter, etc, except it's now applied to those that are older who don't necessarily use those platforms but instead use others. If one doesn't like the former, they also should not logically like the latter either, they're two sides of the same coin.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by lupire on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:47PM (#33726024)
If they don't care enough to undo what you did, is it really hurting them?

Would you say the same if they were shooting heroin?

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by BolexNOLA on Monday November 28, 2022 @06:35PM (#33781455)
> If they don't care enough to undo what you did, is it really hurting them?

I’m not really sure ignorance of (to?) a solution makes this suddenly a morally justifiable action.

I don’t know how to change a tire. I’d still be justifiably upset if someone just removed one while I was at dinner lol

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by satvikpendem on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @06:50PM (#33795033)
Consider another example, if you were out drinking and someone took your keys and refused to give them back so you could drive home while intoxicated, I'd consider that morally justifiable.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by treewalking on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @09:35PM (#33796275)
While there’s perhaps a “clear and present danger” distinction, I think this analogy is a good one because we are talking about similar interventions: nonviolent, easily overcome. No one’s gonna die from taking a cab home or missing out on the latest conspiracy theory.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by BolexNOLA on Thursday December 08, 2022 @06:09PM (#33915070)
No one is going to die if I take their phone away from them once a day and monitor everybody who calls and texts them. I don’t think that’s really a good bar.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by BolexNOLA on Monday December 05, 2022 @07:40PM (#33874182)
That’s a little different as I am under the influence of a known, measurable substance with known, measurable impairments it induces. I basically can’t exercise ANY judgment. Not just driving.

Yes I understand that someone indoctrinated/obsessed with conspiracy theories can quite literally not be able to get out of that orbit without external intervention, but it’s harder to quantify and it’s harder to draw the line on where and when it’s appropriate to declare someone unfit to set their own media consumption habits.

We’d also have to clearly define what does and doesn’t contribute to the problem, which would vary from person to person. That is definitely not a straightforward delineation. Especially when the person in question doesn’t agree at all.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by Teever on Thursday November 24, 2022 @07:31AM (#33730568)
You can think of it as an application of the golden rule.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Would you want someone to do this for you if they found you in a similar situation?

If so, then you know what you need to do.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by BolexNOLA on Monday November 28, 2022 @06:33PM (#33781441)
> Would you want someone to do this for you if they found you in a similar situation?

I mean this assumes I’m absolutely right AND it’s my right to unilaterally cut off my family from certain media without their consent. I feel like in the end I’m correct but not in the right.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by thomastjeffery on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @12:13AM (#33797235)
The big thing is not to cut them off - that's likely part of it - but to replace the problematic habit.

Propaganda thrives on engagement. Engagement must be replaced with something equally stimulating.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by BolexNOLA on Monday December 05, 2022 @07:36PM (#33874152)
But I am cutting them off. The content is blocked. I am denying them access.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by judge2020 on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:00PM (#33725620)
Should also put on Fox News whenever possible, maybe set their browser home to it.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by feet on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:37PM (#33725929)
You want to make the situation worse? Might as well broadcast Tucker Carlson into her headphones while she sleeps
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by refurb on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @08:20PM (#33726757)
You'd have to block mainstream media too if you want to avoid disinformation.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by satvikpendem on Thursday November 24, 2022 @12:34AM (#33728072)
Perhaps we should all decrease our news consumption. I stopped years ago and it's been a boon to my mental health.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by feet on Thursday November 24, 2022 @07:39AM (#33730631)
Same here, it's basically all fear porn no matter which you consume

PBS newshour was actually pretty decent when I did watch it though

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by WalterBright on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:16PM (#33725749)
Alas, these can be symptoms of a neurological disorder. I suggest consulting with a neurologist.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by thwayunion on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @06:54PM (#33726064)
Thanks. We know and are very concerned about dementia in particular. Unfortunately, she's not interested. Fortunately, she is still fully capable of carrying out the normal business of life, at least for now. Not much we can do until things progress further, but we're making financial and logistical plans for if/when that day comes.

In the mean time, subtracting even a few hours of the angry conspiracy TV would help a lot. We do see her come out of the stupor a little bit when we take her "off grid" for a long weekend. But, yes, we fear worse things are to come.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by foxylad on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @07:16PM (#33726255)
After a close family member went down the conspiracy slide, I've realised believing conspiracy theories is an excellent indicator of mental health issues.

Your MiL is a case in point, and sounds like she needs serious help. Fifty years ago the men in white coats would intervene, but now mental health is basically ignored by society. If you care enough about her, you/your wife need to do act.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by alvarezbjm-hn on Thursday November 24, 2022 @02:17AM (#33728585)
>> Fifty years ago the men in white coats would intervene

I dare say they cared about people's mental health even less. Asylums were built to incarcerate relatives you found troublesome. Some healthy people made it there, too.

Not to mention the "treatment" they received there was brutal.

Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by mensetmanusman on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @08:11PM (#33726688)
My mom was like that and it turned out she had undiagnosed schizophrenia. It’s way more common than you can imagine.
Re:What if we talked about over-60s’ screen time as we talk ... by bamboozled on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @08:43PM (#33726944)
I have a similar experience, parents and in-laws are totally consumed by right wing media and conspiracy theory’s to the point that we have to be careful about who we bring near them due to racism comments etc.

Its also super exhausting to be around them as we’re always on edge.

There’s not doubt its Facebook and modern “television”.

Ten years ago they were different people.