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Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by XCSme on Thursday November 17, 2022 @09:32PM (#33649132)
I was checking the ASML technology page[0] as I haven't heard of them before, it was funny seeing that they are a bleeding-edge tech company and they have an image showing jQuery code next to a paragraph about their software: https://i.snipboard.io/pUT4ot.jpg

[0]: https://www.asml.com/en/technology

Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by troymc on Thursday November 17, 2022 @09:49PM (#33649332)
I'm guessing that the page designer just went to a stock photo site, did a search for "code" or something similar, found that image, licensed it, and inserted it. Job done!

I asked TinEye [1] where I can get that stock photo. It turns out you can get it at most of the big stock photo sites. For example, here it is on Shutterstock: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/software-source-cod...

[1] https://tineye.com/

Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by jimmaswell on Thursday November 17, 2022 @10:13PM (#33649560)
There's nothing wrong with using jQuery, especially if you target old browsers or use some of its features that are still more convenient than the ES6 equivalent.
Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by XCSme on Thursday November 17, 2022 @10:58PM (#33650046)
Agree, but I don't think that jQuery really represents the core of their software, I find it funny how big the discrepancy between the text and the image is.
Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by yucky on Thursday November 17, 2022 @10:54PM (#33649996)
Even calling them a bleeding edge tech company is selling them short. They are the only company in the world that can do what they do. Their website could have pictures of clowns in cars on it, and it wouldn't matter.
Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by jxy on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:18AM (#33650681)
It tells that their marketing department is far from their software department. Their lithography rules, and their software is likely a second class citizen.
Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by weatherlite on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:26AM (#33650729)
How dare they not show a ninja library like React with Redux + Redux Saga + Reselect sprinkled on top. You know - for state management and "full state debuggability". You gotta manage that state. I mean what else - display a simple page with plain JS? Just render html on the server?? That's crazy.
Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by ununoctium87 on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:30AM (#33650767)
Front end JavaScript sure sounds like pay to win games on the AppStore nowadays…
Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by skrebbel on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:32AM (#33651104)
It’s not about the framework. It should’ve been C code representative of the stuff that goes into ASML machines.

If I was a junior programmer considering to apply at ASML this picture would give me “ok these folks don’t understand software” vibes.

Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by BoorishBears on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:44AM (#33651583)
And not the fact they literally refer to software as the Robin to their Batman?
Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by MrBuddyCasino on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:48AM (#33651622)
Like all hardware companies, they don’t. Making changes is difficult because there are no unit tests etc pp.
Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by skrebbel on Friday November 18, 2022 @10:00AM (#33655663)
Plenty hardware companies are chock full of unit tests, hardware simulators in-the-loop at multiple levels of abstraction etc etc. I worked at Canon (back then Océ, ie huge pro printers) a long time ago and they had this shit all over. I’ve also seen a litho startup run load tests on the day the hardware was first in one piece, ie the software worked acceptably from day one (incl all the error recovery, edge cases etc etc) because all the hardware had been simulated in software in parallel with it being designed and built.

ASML is not one of these companies.

Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by _fizz_buzz_ on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:07AM (#33652178)
I doubt they run the website themselves. Like most brochure websites this is almost certainly outsourced to some ad agency.
Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by benj111 on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:58AM (#33652593)
By the same token, your comment doesn't give 'understand marketing vibes'

I assume both depts in any company don't understand payroll, I don't think that would give anyone cause for concern about actually getting paid.

There's a reason why people specialise. The fact that one dept doesn't understand the work of another dept isn't a surprise.

Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by Sakos on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:17AM (#33653099)
It's not like they need the site to tell people how good they are. They're ASML. Nobody else is capable if doing what they're doing.
Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by skrebbel on Friday November 18, 2022 @09:56AM (#33655600)
For hiring they do. Plenty options out here for engineers and ASML’s image on this front is “messy and old-fashioned”.
Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by faeriechangling on Saturday November 19, 2022 @02:59AM (#33668084)
If Messy and Old Fashioned is the secret to ASML's success I'll do things the messy old fashioned way.
Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by zogomoox on Friday November 18, 2022 @07:25AM (#33653605)
This is correct. (source: I worked there)
Re:ASML looking to finally get ahead of Moore’s Law by kabes on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:50AM (#33650896)
Maybe they're to busy being one of the most important companies in the world to care about something like this.