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Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by googlryas on Sunday November 13, 2022 @01:40PM (#33585987)
Honestly, at this point in our hyperpartisan world, I expect monsters FUD about pretty much anything. There was just a small scale where in my city about a proposal to slightly modify the way our library is funded. If that gets people viled up, then one can only imagine what multi trillion dollar industries can stir up.
Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by thechao on Sunday November 13, 2022 @03:02PM (#33586749)
That's probably just a yellow bike shed, though?
Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by lazide on Sunday November 13, 2022 @03:41PM (#33587113)
Near as I can tell, a lot of people are just mad.

Not about anything in particular, just mad.

So really it doesn’t matter, they’ll pick a fight over anything.

Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by chadcmulligan on Sunday November 13, 2022 @03:56PM (#33587250)
As an older fairly conservative friend of mine said when I was trying to talk him into some new tech thing - I just don't want anything to change. Seems a lot of people are like that, and just knee jerk to any change.
Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by lazide on Sunday November 13, 2022 @04:19PM (#33587446)
Yup. IMO, it’s a sign of being overwhelmed.

When folks get older, a lot of things stop working as well as they did, including old learned behaviors and physical things too, so it happens more easily and more often.

But this isn’t just an old person thing right now.

Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by prawn on Sunday November 13, 2022 @05:49PM (#33588201)
I've long figured that a lot of political tensions stem from the perceived pace of change: in technology, social norms, etc. It must be hard going from feeling like the master of your domain to frustrated that you don't know how to watch streaming TV or might put your foot in it saying something that was unremarkable 20 years ago (e.g., joke books in the 80s were full of stereotypes).
Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by p1necone on Sunday November 13, 2022 @04:33PM (#33587568)
Actually I think we should paint it green.
Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by shapefrog on Monday November 14, 2022 @05:56AM (#33592399)
green???? f'ing savage, you obviously hate the country, dont support the troops and want to murder babies.
Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by lob_it on Sunday November 13, 2022 @03:55PM (#33587241)
Its more of a generational divide with the hyperpartisan gibberish. I always laughed when they said "voting for the lessor of two brain-dead illiterates stuck in the 18th century".

It looks like the indoctrinated offspring from that rabid environment just make a 3rd and 4th party easier to implement... To square up the 3 sides to every story and the fourth to make it interesting (FORE is a cool number in golf too).

A ho-nest days pay for a ho-nest days work is loaded with innuendos :)

And regarding renewables, diversification is a beautiful thing in the 1st world :)

Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by reilly3000 on Sunday November 13, 2022 @04:27PM (#33587526)
Public Relations won. Advertising won. Weaponized Infighting is winning.

Say the first thing that comes to mind when you think “Coca Cola.” Say it out loud, don’t edit.

If you said something about nostalgia or polar bears you would be like most humans around the globe for the past 50+ years. I submit that as my evidence that PR and Advertising are remarkably potent.

If you really said something to the effect of “depraved multinational corporation” you’ve eluded their attempts to seer their brand onto your brain 50 times a day. You have steel wit, perhaps your neurophysiology measures a few SD from norms. You have an important role in the solution.

Advertising & PR ought to be illegal, especially with AI driving it. I came from that space and love the creativity, but fear it’s power. Usually where advertising is illegal it just means the state has a monopoly on marketing. It’s not an enforceable policy, and is a meaningful degradation of liberty.

What I think would work is making it unprofitable. Revoke the tax deduction for it. Then make some licensure and oversight for influence operations (my new umbrella term). Register professional services agreements and require quarterly reports. Target ad exchanges like crypto, with a set of standards and Treasury authority.

Frankly, online ad exchanges have been one of the highest volume means of international money laundering and global exchange, and Google et al skimming huge % cuts of 2-5 parts of the transaction. Not regulating it will allow a loophole for continued fraudulent transactions at scale.

Parcels of human “mindshare” are auctioned off with every advertising transaction. Your 5 seconds on YouTube can be worth $5 to the right advertiser. Often that means the highest profit, most coercive players win your attention the most. On web publisher sites, the auction happens in 100ms often in the client at the expense of performance. Always. You can’t fire off 700 requests and not impact performance. It’s for bids to a dozen ad networks and all of their trackers and the winning ad’s trackers and then then do it again every 30 seconds and on scroll listeners, for 6-12 ads plus a video player or two and an exit pop.

Is it just cool that human attention is auctioned off like chattel slavery? Am I wrong to be scared of what billionaires can and have been doing with free reign?

_Citizens United_ really did a number on democracy. Such an ironic name, isn’t it?

Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by Gare on Sunday November 13, 2022 @06:33PM (#33588515)
> Say the first thing that comes to mind when you think “Coca Cola.” Say it out loud, don’t edit.

Sometimes war?

Either I'm a very cynical person or a bigger Rammstein fan than I thought.

Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by PaulHoule on Sunday November 13, 2022 @06:54PM (#33588643)
High Fructose Corn Syrup
Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by throwaway46829 on Sunday November 13, 2022 @08:08PM (#33589131)
I thought "yum"
Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by dangrossman on Sunday November 13, 2022 @09:44PM (#33589696)
> Say the first thing that comes to mind when you think “Coca Cola.”

My first thought was "Pepsi", so I guess a different advertiser won the war for my brain.

Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by Qwertious on Sunday November 13, 2022 @11:06PM (#33590097)
>Say the first thing that comes to mind when you think “Coca Cola.” Say it out loud, don’t edit.

Shit company. Or maybe "red metallic can", which is the first thing I pictured when I read "coca cola". TBH I didn't think of anything in particular when I read "coca cola", I didn't have a particular reaction.

Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by landemva on Sunday November 13, 2022 @11:52PM (#33590298)
> the first thing that comes to mind when you think “Coca Cola.”

High fructose corn syrup.

I believe I am a better person since removing the TV a couple decades ago. I do not miss the advertising nor news-washing.

Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by devilsbabe on Monday November 14, 2022 @01:12AM (#33590688)
> Say the first thing that comes to mind when you think “Coca Cola.” Say it out loud, don’t edit

sugary drink

Re:Solar panel waste may not be nearly as bad as we once tho... by bigbluedots on Monday November 14, 2022 @02:27AM (#33591115)
> Say the first thing that comes to mind when you think “Coca Cola.” Say it out loud, don’t edit

Cocaine