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Re:Binance Acquires FTX by boeingUH60 on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @11:50AM (#33521143)
"We’re going to look back at a generation of successful founders and VCs with the realization that all of their talent was in creating a company during the bull market." - random tweet I came across that's very relevant here.
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by billjings on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @11:55AM (#33521220)
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by 3001 on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @01:22PM (#33522348)
Total unrelated but son of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olusegun_Obasanjo. Numero uno looter of Africa
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by MaxHoppersGhost on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @02:35PM (#33523226)
Wow. I like how his son’s Twitter profile talks about inclusivity. Very brave.
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by melvinmelih on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @02:35PM (#33523229)
He very cleverly took his name out of his dad's wikipedia entry. It's still there in older versions: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Olusegun_Obasanjo...
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by bolasanibk on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @02:52PM (#33523429)
Not to be confused with the talented soccer player Sam Obisanya. https://ted-lasso.fandom.com/wiki/Sam_Obisanya#Dubai_Air_and...
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by googlryas on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @04:20PM (#33524453)
Why even reference it then? We have understood that sins of the father are not the sins of the child since at least the book of exodus(~500BC).

If that tweeter has done something wrong in his life, then talk about it. But he didn't really have a choice on who birthed him.

From the wiki page:

> Some of his children were resentful that he gave them no special privileges and treated their mothers poorly.

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by billjings on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @04:40PM (#33524680)
I went to Georgia Tech with Dare. It's a great school, but it's not exactly the kind of place you send your scions of privilege.
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by 3001 on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @05:00PM (#33524897)
Thats funny, sure going to Gtech for an American as an undergrad doesn't scream privilege but seeing that today the total cost of going to such school will run you around 400k as an international student, while millions of people graduate high school in Nigeria and have to go through the hunger games of Jamb for extremely limited spots due to the lack of investment in education lead by his dad and cohorts tells a different tale.

Someone like him not born to such father in Nigeria, will likely be an high school teacher getting paid $100 every 4 months.

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by googlryas on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @05:22PM (#33525127)
Are you just assuming his dad paid for his school? Do you know if he received any scholarships? Do you know the finances of his mother/mother's side of the family?
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by stefan_ on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @06:10PM (#33525545)
A scholarship? People from Nigeria can't even get a visa into the US.
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by Sebguer on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @06:40PM (#33525769)
This is absolutely bullshit.
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by prottog on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @09:52PM (#33527033)
That's not even true in September 2022[0], let alone throughout the whole immigration history from Nigeria to the US.

There are a quarter of a million immigrants from Nigeria in the US.

[0]: https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Immigr...

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by billjings on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @03:19AM (#33528718)
It's not because of the price point that you wouldn't send your overpriveleged kid there. It's because they'd run a decent chance of flunking out.
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by swyx on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @08:48PM (#33526707)
what exactly does Dare do? he always seems to have a take on every little thing in tech. is he a fulltime commentator?
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by Kbelicius on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @10:11AM (#33532680)
We have also understood that sins of the father are sins of the child since at least the book of genesis(~500BC).
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by niyikiza on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @05:57PM (#33525445)
Wow! That's next level Ad Hominem & Genetic fallacies
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by httpz on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @01:23PM (#33522357)
Majority of early startups still don't make it past the valley of death even during a bull market.

This is like saying every great sailor happened to sail when the wind was blowing in the right direction.

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by chubot on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @03:14PM (#33523674)
There was an entire book about this that became famous during the financial 2008 crisis:

Fooled by Randomness by Nassim Taleb

https://www.amazon.com/Fooled-Randomness-Hidden-Markets-Ince...

It's literally about how options traders and the like can be lucky for 10 or 20 years, but they are actually idiots who destroy the economy.

They think they are skilled, and others think they are skilled, but it's luck. You can also call it "anti-luck" because their short-term actions can cause the long-term crisis.

This book was a #1 best seller, as were most of Taleb's books, but for some reason whenever I mention it to anybody, I get blank stares.

I think it's just really hard for people to understand phenomena that occur at time scales of say more than a decade.

(BTW Another good book about recurring economic cycles is Dalio's 2022 The Changing World Order. All of this stuff has happened before. This is separate from crypto, and relates to the global economic environment.)

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by tanseydavid on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @03:30PM (#33523876)
This book was my introduction to Taleb and I loved it. I recommend it frequently.
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by lordnacho on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @05:40PM (#33525298)
> whenever I mention it to anybody, I get blank stares.

Maybe it's the circles you move in. In finance nobody hasn't heard of it.

Well deserved reputation too, it really changed how I saw things. It's weird because even as someone who studied probability and stats, I hadn't thought it would change my entire worldview.

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by niyikiza on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @05:54PM (#33525419)
Great book. It was my introduction to Taleb as well It profoundly shaped how I interpret markets and approach my own investments.
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by dibt on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @01:29AM (#33528121)
>It's literally about how options traders and the like can be lucky for 10 or 20 years

I don't see how doing anything successfully (in this case, gaining profit?) for 20 years can be described as "luck." Surviving/being successful that long trading isn't a fluke.

I haven't read the book, but I know that Talib talks about 'tail risk' a lot and 'risk of ruin'. Which are very different than what you describe. If my bet size is only limited to 2%, I would be happy to be "lucky" for 20 years!

Re:Binance Acquires FTX by catothedev on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @02:43AM (#33528510)
Example: sell attractively priced insurance against a 100-year-flood. You make money for 20 years, but then a crazy big flood bankrupts your insurance company. Who would have thought that would happen?! Options (and other things) can be structured to create 'catastrophic insurance like' outcomes.
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by jsemrau on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @06:29PM (#33525682)
This is literally the definition of "beta" in equities trading. There is nothing bad with riding a good bull run. Ponzenomics is the issue here (imho) where we have to come to realize that there is no liquidity in many crypto currencies because there is not need to actually trade them. And projects that provide real yield (i.e., use an existing currency as their main currency of operations) fail to get traction because they don't provide the Ponzenomics scheme to their users.
Re:Binance Acquires FTX by wslh on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @04:39AM (#33529225)
"We’re going to look back at a generation of successful founders and VCs with the realization that all of their talent was in creating a company during the bull market.". I would add: "and tweeting all day".