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Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by firstSpeaker on Friday November 04, 2022 @07:14AM (#33464801)
Here’s full email that Twitter has sent to its employees:

Team,

In an effort to place Twitter on a healthy path, we will go through the difficult process of reducing our global workforce on Friday. We recognize that this will impact a number of individuals who have made valuable contributions to Twitter, but this action is unfortunately necessary to ensure the company’s success moving forward.

Given the nature of our distributed workforce and our desire to inform impacted individuals as quickly as possible, communications for this process will take place via email. By 9AM PST on Friday Nov. 4th, everyone will receive an individual email with the subject line: Your Role at Twitter. Please check your email, including your spam folder.

If your employment is not impacted, you will receive a notification via your Twitter email.

If your employment is impacted, you will receive a notification with next steps via your personal email.

If you do not receive an email from twitter-hr@ by 5PM PST on Friday Nov. 4th, please email xxxxxxxx.

To help ensure the safety of each employee as well as Twitter systems and customer data, our offices will be temporarily closed and all badge access will be suspended. If you are in an office or on your way to an office, please return home.

We acknowledge this is an incredibly challenging experience to go through, whether or not you are impacted. Thank you for continuing to adhere to Twitter policies that prohibit you from discussing confidential company information on social media, with the press or elsewhere.

We are grateful for your contributions to Twitter and for your patience as we move through this process.

Thank you.

Twitter

Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by tyingq on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:13AM (#33465304)
>If you do not receive an email from twitter-hr@ by 5PM PST on Friday Nov. 4th, please email xxxxxxxx.

I wonder how many will fall into this black hole, having to email and wait to hear whether they have a job or not. On a late Friday afternoon.

Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by exitb on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:25AM (#33465437)
Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by vesinisa on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:14AM (#33465315)
> By 9AM PST on Friday Nov. 4th

So confused. Isn't the U.S. still on DST until this Sunday, meaning the correct timezone at the Twitter HQ is in fact PDT (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-7)? PST is Pacific Standard Time (UTC-8), i.e. "winter time".

Maybe they thought PST stands for Pacific Summer Time? Or this email was sent by someone from Europe, where DST ended last Sunday?

Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by quartz on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:26AM (#33465440)
In my experience no one really uses ST/DT properly in the US in casual email… in fact I can’t remember the last time I received a human-written email referencing EDT or PDT. For some reason everyone just defaults to PST/EST.

I’ve given up even trying and just use “PT” and “ET” or even “NYC time” or “SF time” especially when interacting with those outside the US (who are less familiar with the custom and more confused when a mistake is made).

Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by SwiftyBug on Friday November 04, 2022 @01:47PM (#33470900)
With my team I only use UTC. Specially because most of us are not in the US.
Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by alkonaut on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:20AM (#33465388)
It's common to use the same time zone abbreviation throughout the year. E.g. in Europe you'd be on CET or CEST depending on time of year, but it's common enough to use "CET" for both that it's a de facto standard. Not a hill to die on at this point.

CET in this informal way means "CET OR CEST depending on which of them is current at the location at the given time".

This can give rise to ambiguity in places, but it's pretty rare that it does.

Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by CalRobert on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:26AM (#33465441)
Most people don't know what PST is and just use it all year without thinking about it.
Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by thallium205 on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:22AM (#33465402)
They likely meant to put “PT” which merely indicates Pacific Time ignoring if the time zone is in daylight savings or not.
Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by CoastalCoder on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:42AM (#33465605)
I see this a lot.

I always want to correct people on it. But unfortunately it resides in funky middle-ground between (a) corrections being welcome / helpful and (b) corrections seeming nit-picky / pedantic.

Similarly to misuses (according to classical grammar rules) of "who" vs. "whom".

Both grate on me, but there's no acceptable way to get others to change.

Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by gnu8 on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:14AM (#33465316)
> If your employment is impacted, you will receive a notification with next steps via your personal email.

What about people who don’t have a personal email address?

Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by sillysaurusx on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:25AM (#33465433)
It’s like office space. You’ll just keep showing up for work but never get paid.
Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by sgt on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:29AM (#33465480)
Or you continue to get paid due to an accounting error, and also bizarrely your badge still works, and your repo access still remains.
Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by Luuseens on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:18AM (#33465357)
They do not work for Twitter.
Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by almostarockstar on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:18AM (#33465353)
I'm sure they will both figure something out.
Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by plgonzalezrx8 on Friday November 04, 2022 @09:21AM (#33466201)
Yeah, people working at a big tech company without personal email address, when they got the job initially they got notified via pigeon carrier, I guess they'll do the same now /s
Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by wiredfool on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:16AM (#33465333)
Wonder who’s going to be the first to spoof emails to managements personal addresses. For maximum confusion, send both messages, several times.
Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by abootstrapper on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:21AM (#33465396)
> We are grateful for your contributions to Twitter

Clearly.

Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by Frost1x on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:32AM (#33465500)
Always fun to see real relationship language buried in messages that clearly treat your relationship as entirely transactional. I always wonder if there's anyone left naive enough to justify corporate double speak.
Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by aliqot on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:35AM (#33465537)
> elationship as entirely transactional

by definition, it is. It's a job

Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by Frost1x on Friday November 04, 2022 @09:03AM (#33465920)
Agreed. So, why pretend it's not purely transactional, other than to be manipulative? All the "were a family", "we care about you", yada yada language just tries to create false social constructs to hide the fact your relationship is only a business transaction.
Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by xwolfi on Friday November 04, 2022 @09:42AM (#33466533)
Honestly I quite companies while being grateful to them... I m not sure why the need to be salty here: they cant keep these people, what can they say?
Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by pmoriarty on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:48AM (#33465680)
"I always wonder if there's anyone left naive enough to justify corporate double speak."

I found The Gervais Principle[1] to be an interesting read on the subject. According to its author:

"the Sociopaths use Powertalk as a coded language with which to simultaneously sustain the (necessary) delusions of the Clueless and communicate with each other"

Also relevant was the article's description of the so-called MacLeod Life Cycle of organizations, wherein:

"A Sociopath with an idea recruits just enough Losers to kick off the cycle. As it grows it requires a Clueless layer to turn it into a controlled reaction rather than a runaway explosion. Eventually, as value hits diminishing returns, both the Sociopaths and Losers make their exits, and the Clueless start to dominate. Finally, the hollow brittle shell collapses on itself and anything of value is recycled by the sociopaths according to meta-firm logic."

[1] - https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-...

Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by plgonzalezrx8 on Friday November 04, 2022 @09:16AM (#33466132)
Its not double speak.

Its a job, what do you expect?

The other way around could have true. You could have had an amazing time at a company, and be grateful for everything they did for you during your tenure at a company, but due to life circumstances that force you to move somewhere else, or something personal in your life, you have to quit, while also being grateful for the impact a company had in your life.

Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by CalRobert on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:25AM (#33465431)
Please tell me they're actually using PST and not just screwing up PDT.
Re:Twitter to employees today: 'If in office or on your way,... by gbil on Friday November 04, 2022 @08:33AM (#33465514)
one way or the other, PDT will receive an email in its personal mail Saturday to Sunday this weekend /s