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Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by nrki on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @01:38PM (#33439836)
The fact that Coca-Cola sponsors a climate conference is crazy to me. That a UN climate conference NEEDS a corporate sponsor is also ridiculous.
Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by ars on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @01:55PM (#33440155)
> The fact that Coca-Cola sponsors a climate conference is crazy to me.

It's not that crazy: Scenario: the product you make needs plastic packaging. You want to do as best you can with the constraint that you will keep shipping product. So you sponsor a climate conference to get ideas on what you can improve.

The option of "don't ship product" is not an option. Given that, what can you do instead?

Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by bondarchuk on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @02:28PM (#33440659)
It makes perfect sense from coca cola's perspective to sponsor a climate conference, what makes no sense at all and what I think GP is getting at is that it's completely insane from the climate conference's perspective to be sponsored by coca cola.

(And please spare me the cynical explanation of why it does make sense from a cynical climate conference's perspective.)

Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by Dylan16807 on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @04:03PM (#33442156)
Is it wrong for a climate conference to take money from big corporations at all?
Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by paulryanrogers on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @04:14PM (#33442318)
Conflict of interest when corporations like Coca Cola engage in massive green-washing campaigns
Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by Dylan16807 on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @04:20PM (#33442407)
What if they're an average company environmentally, with no green-washing?
Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by paulryanrogers on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @04:31PM (#33442540)
Less concerning, though corporations are by nature usually self-interested and motivated solely by profit.
Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by brundozer on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @02:33PM (#33440771)
> So you sponsor a climate conference to get ideas on what you can improve.

What kind of ideas does sponsoring give you access to that you wouldn't get otherwise?

Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by wccrawford on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @03:37PM (#33441755)
Assuming the conference is still as big without sponsorship, maybe nothing.

But if the conference is smaller or doesn't exist because it can't afford to...

Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by karmakurtisaani on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @02:22PM (#33440558)
Or, you sponsor a conference that you can say you're doing something, while actually pushing your influence to make sure the most profitable actions are taken in the end.
Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by andrei_says_ on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @02:17PM (#33440495)
Corporations are sociopathic entities dedicated to extraction of wealth.

As such they end up accumulating most of the wealth, at the expense of everyone and everything else - including our biosphere.

Wealth is power. It is literally a contract to make people do as one says.

Corporations use this power to encode their advantages in laws - laws that all of us are bound to follow, despite having no consent in creating them.

Sociopathic entities will do anything without perception of morals. Sponsoring an environmental conference must be good for perception and that must be good for business.

We humans have magnified and empowered and deitified some of the scariest tendencies of our minds and turned them into unstoppable entities of epic proportions. Now we walk amongst these demons of our own creation, somehow hypnotized in accepting the global destruction they cause as completely normal.

This is nothing new for anyone here - and we all go about our days.

Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by bluescrn on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @02:51PM (#33441049)
Not as crazy as the number of people who'll be flying in on private jets for the conference.
Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @03:37PM (#33441757)
There are ~100,000 flights per day. Who cares?
Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by kevinventullo on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @03:50PM (#33441975)
How many plastic bottles of water are carbon-equivalent to taking a single international flight?
Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by bluescrn on Thursday November 03, 2022 @09:22AM (#33450551)
It's about the image. There's no attempt to lead by example. Get some good PR photos of the rich+powerful travelling economy-class then cycling from the hotel to the event, maybe?

They're making it so obvious that the 'ruling class' are going to place the entire burden of climate change reduction on the less well-off parts of society, people for whom the loss of their car will be devastating, people who can barely afford to heat their homes already, people who can only dream of the hugely expensive green tech (EVs, solar, heat pumps, etc) being sold to the middle-class and up as some sort of solution.

Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by umeshunni on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @03:19PM (#33441493)
A tiny number compared to the number of people flying daily.
Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by carl_dr on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @03:40PM (#33441805)
The pollution caused by me heating my house is minuscule compared to the pollution caused by everyone else heating their houses.

It doesn’t mean I should give up caring about the pollution I generate.

Re:Coca-Cola increased plastic use ahead of COP27 summit it ... by happyopossum on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @03:42PM (#33441835)
Wait, we're talking about not flying somewhere due to the environmental impact. Are you now suggesting that we should not heat our homes due to same?