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Re:Tell HN: YouTube's web UI just got even worse by vezycash on Friday October 28, 2022 @11:09AM (#33372341)
> why is there such a mania for reducing sort/finest options

Apple started the minimalist, option hiding, functionality axing, 1984-ish control freak movement. They even got away with selling phones without chargers, making $40 billion on lightning cables sales.

Just blame Apple.

Re:Tell HN: YouTube's web UI just got even worse by yreg on Friday October 28, 2022 @11:42AM (#33372873)
>making $40 billion on lightning cables sales

Someone commented this yesterday but the calculation was crap. What source do you have?

Re:Tell HN: YouTube's web UI just got even worse by augustuspolius on Friday October 28, 2022 @11:17AM (#33372467)
Not everything is a conspiracy to make more money.

I don’t know a single person in my bubble who needs more lightning cables. I have a dozen unused lightning cables already laying around.

I threw away all headphones that came with my iPhones I have ever bought. Most of mini/macro usb cables that come with small electronics go into trash - I do not need more cables!

Re:Tell HN: YouTube's web UI just got even worse by spookthesunset on Friday October 28, 2022 @11:40AM (#33372845)
Was just thinking about how they stopped including headphones. Yeah, I already have enough chargers, headphones and whatever else…

Cynically it’s probably a way to adjust for inflation or whatever by keeping the same price but reducing the amount of stuff you get.

Re:Tell HN: YouTube's web UI just got even worse by duxup on Friday October 28, 2022 @11:27AM (#33372632)
Agreed. At this point extra cables and chargers seems wasteful.

If you need one there are plenty of options, including affordable 3rd party options.

Re:Tell HN: YouTube's web UI just got even worse by alexb_ on Friday October 28, 2022 @11:27AM (#33372623)
>Not everything is a conspiracy to make more money.

???? That's literally exactly what the point of every business decision is.

Re:Tell HN: YouTube's web UI just got even worse by augustuspolius on Friday October 28, 2022 @11:36AM (#33372772)
There are literally people in the world that can be motivated by something other than money. Some of those people are involved in making business decisions. Imagine that!
Re:Tell HN: YouTube's web UI just got even worse by afavour on Friday October 28, 2022 @11:32AM (#33372714)
Well, no, that's why things like government regulations exist. Some business decisions are to keep within, say, a government target for waste produced.
Re:Tell HN: YouTube's web UI just got even worse by Minor49er on Friday October 28, 2022 @12:14PM (#33373417)
And government control over these matters is why lobbyists exist
Re:Tell HN: YouTube's web UI just got even worse by duxup on Friday October 28, 2022 @11:30AM (#33372664)
I’ve made business decisions.

It’s not always a conspiracy to make more money.

Re:Tell HN: YouTube's web UI just got even worse by HurdsTimesNear on Friday October 28, 2022 @12:20PM (#33373513)
You are right sometimes it is all out in the open
Re:Tell HN: YouTube's web UI just got even worse by delecti on Friday October 28, 2022 @01:06PM (#33374205)
Agreed. I've never even owned a device that uses Lightning, and I still have a small handful of Lightning cables in various cable drawers.
Re:Tell HN: YouTube's web UI just got even worse by Kye on Friday October 28, 2022 @11:17AM (#33372463)
They still come with a Lightning to USB-C cable. I plug it into my laptop when I need a quick charge and use my existing lower power Lightning charger when I don't.