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Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by lr4444lr on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:54AM (#33275681)
They have to pay an attendant hourly just to be sure no one is in there while the self clean runs? Why can't it operate based on a weight sensor?
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by borissk on Thursday October 20, 2022 @11:02AM (#33275803)
Because somebody will step on the sink or somehow else avoid the sensor and then sue for a round sum.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by mikeryan on Thursday October 20, 2022 @11:17AM (#33276026)
When unmonitored public toilets have had issues with people camping out while partaking illicit substances and other X-rated activities.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by mrits on Thursday October 20, 2022 @11:06AM (#33275856)
I think I'd take my chances with the sidewalk than risk a startups new self cleaning censor. Literally a shit storm
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by mattnewton on Thursday October 20, 2022 @11:34AM (#33276303)
It's not some startups self cleaning sensor, this is old technology that is in several other cities without attendants, and is basically idiot proof. The attendant hopefully makes it american-idiot proof too.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by thatguy0900 on Thursday October 20, 2022 @12:44PM (#33277310)
I think the problem isn't making it idiot proof, but making it malicious user who really wants to do heroin in there proof
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by Phlogistique on Thursday October 20, 2022 @11:51AM (#33276543)
All the toilets in Paris self-clean between users. You don't need the sensor to work not to get sprayed, just to exit the toilet when a voice says "EXIT THE TOILET NOW, THE SELF CLEANING PROCESS IS ABOUT TO BEGIN.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by sixstringtheory on Thursday October 20, 2022 @12:51PM (#33277414)
I used one of these and the self clean cycle started without warning while I was washing my hands. I couldn’t have been in there more than 4-5 minutes. Luckily the door didn’t lock so I was able to escape before getting “cleaned”.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by hot_gril on Thursday October 20, 2022 @01:01PM (#33277557)
Heck, I cover up the self-flushing mechanism on toilets every time then remove it after. Not a pleasant surprise when it miscalculates.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by mrits on Thursday October 20, 2022 @03:39PM (#33279627)
Even self flushing toilets are often broken. A certain building I worked at I had to jump off quickly and out of the way so it didn't spray up with a trigger happy mega flush.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by staticautomatic on Friday October 21, 2022 @01:10AM (#33284743)
Kinda hard to do when you’re nodding out on the floor.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by gregoriol on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:59AM (#33275768)
Because no startup has made an AI for that purpose yet?
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by uoaei on Thursday October 20, 2022 @12:00PM (#33276673)
All you need is a PIR sensor
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by yupper32 on Thursday October 20, 2022 @01:01PM (#33277553)
It's cheaper to pay someone $20 an hour 24 hours a day for 20 years than it is to pay out the $4mil lawsuit for when that sensor fails.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by mousetree on Thursday October 20, 2022 @05:40PM (#33281173)
I'm not an American, but can/would people sue for getting washed in a self-cleaning toilet? Surely some signs and disclosures would be sufficient?
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by dahdum on Thursday October 20, 2022 @06:04PM (#33281410)
They’d be injecting hard drugs, especially fentanyl, constantly in this toilet, so signs and disclosures won’t mean much. SF is a rather “special” place, you can’t easily compare to other international cities.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by uoaei on Thursday October 20, 2022 @08:17PM (#33282599)
Spoken like someone who has not spent more than a week in SF, probably entirely in hotels or restaurants.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by staticautomatic on Friday October 21, 2022 @01:08AM (#33284733)
I’ve lived in SF for more than a decade and if I opened the door to a public toilet I’d be surprised if someone wasn’t shooting up inside.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by uoaei on Friday October 21, 2022 @03:18AM (#33285404)
You don't spend much time outside of your house, then.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by pyuser583 on Friday October 21, 2022 @02:08AM (#33285031)
Are people really shooting up on the streets in Noe Valley? I kept hearing it’s the one nice part of the city.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by Turing_Machine on Thursday October 20, 2022 @06:42PM (#33281762)
People in America will sue because the "crunchberries" in breakfast cereals aren't real berries.

That doesn't mean they'll win, but even a bogus lawsuit is expensive and time-consuming.

https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/judge_tosses_suit_cl...

Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by OJFord on Thursday October 20, 2022 @08:34PM (#33282712)
They'd sue for you suggesting they shouldn't!
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK on Friday October 21, 2022 @02:08AM (#33285027)
Easily defeated with a masking tape.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by hot_gril on Thursday October 20, 2022 @01:00PM (#33277538)
There's an AI, but there's no blockchain or AR, and that's really the important part.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by whimsicalism on Thursday October 20, 2022 @11:48AM (#33276487)
Have you been to SF?
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by iancmceachern on Saturday October 22, 2022 @03:35AM (#33296294)
Valid point, public bathrooms in France do this without an attendant