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Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by Thaxll on Thursday October 13, 2022 @12:38PM (#33193378)
This sounds terrible, it shows a lack of confidence in your own product, imagine if Google internally would use Zoom...

I can tell you that devs that use their own product deliver better quality.

Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by dghlsakjg on Thursday October 13, 2022 @12:43PM (#33193454)
The sound quality and filtering on Zoom is noticeably better than on Meets.

Perhaps you also need to use the product that your competitors use to understand what you need to beat.

Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by Thaxll on Thursday October 13, 2022 @12:47PM (#33193505)
For testing and strategy maybe not for day to day use.
Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by airstrike on Thursday October 13, 2022 @02:53PM (#33194947)
Maybe alternate between the leading product and your own so you can experience the same pain users do when they are forced to use the inferior choice after becoming accustomed to best-in-class.
Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by neurostimulant on Thursday October 13, 2022 @02:55PM (#33194984)
I'm sure Google Meets works flawlessly at Google's office (presumably a short hop away to their data centers via dedicated fiber optics link).
Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by lazide on Thursday October 13, 2022 @03:07PM (#33195122)
Google has invested heavily in sound management in their rooms, and issued noise cancelling headphones to everyone awhile back they got to take home. That might explain some things.
Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by mcqueenjordan on Thursday October 13, 2022 @09:47PM (#33198737)
But isn't Google Meet's background noise cancellation far superior to that of Zoom's? Or maybe I misunderstood your comment.

EDIT: I see above that others have claimed the opposite, but my experience has been different. I simply cannot take a call from a cafe in Zoom without complaints, but Meets is regularly tolerable, according to those I meet with.

Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by jhugo on Thursday October 13, 2022 @11:10PM (#33199211)
If you use Zoom & Google Meet in the browser, the audio processing is likely pretty much the same (most of the filtering is built-in to the WebRTC stack). Zoom's native app has noticeably worse audio, but pretty much everything about it is worse anyway — it's just a pity you have to click through the "download the app" dark pattern to get to their better browser experience.
Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by marcosdumay on Thursday October 13, 2022 @12:51PM (#33193546)
Well, optimally you would want to use both yours and your competitors' products.
Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by SaltySolomon on Thursday October 13, 2022 @12:58PM (#33193657)
I mean, it also creates a circular dependency, if you have an issue with your own product and trying to fix it then you can suddenly not communicate.
Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by grensley on Thursday October 13, 2022 @01:34PM (#33194098)
The Facebook outage last year being a great example of this. They lost basically all internal communications.
Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by throwaway2037 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @09:04PM (#33198499)
Is there a public write-up or blog post about it? It sounds interesting to read about!
Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by grensley on Friday October 14, 2022 @01:21AM (#33199926)
Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by mattnewton on Thursday October 13, 2022 @01:10PM (#33193801)
That’s why SRE teams at companies I have been at always keep an IRC server hosted separately from all their other infra.
Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by sjtgraham on Thursday October 13, 2022 @01:06PM (#33193749)
Then why does Google Meet suck?
Re:Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing? by cachvico on Thursday October 13, 2022 @05:55PM (#33196969)
This is a good question. Does Google use Meet? Are they still subject to the frankly ridiculous max resolution of 720p?